F-86A

[Stolz]

29.06.2026 в 00:12, Avimimus сказал:

I'm curious Gavrick as to whether this is really a gee load issue. I have a strong suspicion that the aircraft is too unstable in pitch at high speeds... again, that is just my intuition - but it does seem to like porpoising and has a really high third derivative in pitch (if you understand what I'm saying) at higher speeds.

It could be that I'm bad at trim or something though... maybe it is the control system?

Yes, I have the same impression — more on an intuitive level. The issue is very hard to reproduce reliably; it feels rather random. Sometimes you deliberately try to break the wings and nothing happens. Other times, at the same speed and with the same stick inputs, they fold without any trouble.

It feels as if excessive peak values are sometimes being injected into the G-load data, even though they should not be there.

This is easy to check: just fly one map on Berloga in the Sabre against MiGs, then fly one map in the MiG against Sabres. The MiG performs maneuvers without any problem, while even a hint of the same kind of maneuver in the Sabre can cause structural failure.

[Ramstein]

12 hours ago, SYN_Mugue said:

I believe the F-86 had a "weight on wheels switch" that prevented collapsing the landing gear when on the ground if the control was actuated inadvertently. At present in game, this feature is missing. 

Hoping it can get sorted at some point down the line.

Thanks,

M.

I thought i had the low rider mod... clears that up...LOL

[SYN_Mugue]

11 hours ago, Stonehouse said:

Only the mains wheels are covered by the weight on wheels from what I've gathered. The nose wheel had a manually placed safety lock which had to be removed prior to flight by ground crew or the pilot during their walkaround. I have reported this during the beta so like you I'm hoping it is something that can be fixed.

Thanks for finding the relevant section Stonehouse, I knew I read it back when fooling around in DCS many moons ago...

And @Dash,Polder, I was not moving at the time of the incident in question.

Cheers,

M.  

[Gavrick]

29.06.2026 в 02:08, Stonehouse сказал:

Not sure if it is modelled but the F86 did experience aileron up-float which may contribute if it is modelled.

Will be tuned in near (i hope) future.

 

11 часов назад, Stonehouse сказал:

The nose wheel had a manually placed safety lock which had to be removed prior to flight by ground crew or the pilot during their walkaround. I have reported this during the beta so like you I'm hoping it is something that can be fixed.

Will be fixed later.

[Pyro]

And the startup thing? Thats quite important as well.

[Gavrick]

1 час назад, Pyro сказал:

And the startup thing? Thats quite important as well.

Cannot reproduce at my current version. So - i guess - it should be fixed.

[Pyro]

Looking forward for that version to go live then 🙂

[Stolz]

28.06.2026 в 22:03, Gavrick сказал:

In next patch breaking G-load for Sabre will be increased (a bit) - to 11...11.5G.

And you can turn on ingame HUD, and check G-load at all aircraft.

I just enabled the HUD and checked the G-load data on Berloga. The Sabre starts breaking apart somewhere around 10–10.5G. I can’t say more precisely because the G-load increases very quickly. I managed to pull the MiG all the way up to 13.8G, with no signs of structural failure.

Given that, according to the manual, both aircraft have a structural failure limit of 12G, will the MiG’s breaking G-load be brought into line with that value?

[Mr_Tayto]

is it a feature of the F-86 that it wants to do an unrestricted climb when you take your hand off the stick? Or am I doing something wrong?

 

It's not my trim, because that doesn't seem to do anything anyway 🤣 It just seems the MiG-15 is so much more stable in all ways.

[Pyro]

There are several ways to trim the aircraft. Ever tried to bind servo trimming? You can doublebind it to the buttons used for regular trimming. If you keep it neutral all the time then yes, it will start to climb as your speed increases.