Enceladus828 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 10 hours ago, BlitzPig_EL said: It's just that being in the combat flight sim world for 20+ years and seeing countless posts wanting obscure aircraft or conflict zones (Spanish Civil War, Japanese conquest of China in the 30s, Italian/Austro-Hungarian front in WW1, etc ...) I know it's never going to happen. I don't like it, but these things are very niche and the audience for them is nowhere near as large as the Western European or Russian fronts in WW2. Developers have to go where the money is, and it's not in these "lesser" fronts, where you and I would like to play. I agree with most of what you said but the things I bolded represent having a go at something ultra-niche versus trying something new that is still interesting and therefore appealing to players. Like what other game(s) before IL-2 Sturmovik 2001 explored the Eastern Front of WW2, how many maps apart from Moscow, Stalingrad, Leningrad, Kursk area, and Berlin were in IL-2 2001, and how many flyable non lend-lease Soviet planes were in it except of course for the Ilyushin IL-2? I was a baby when that game came out and only remember playing Forgotten Battles and Pacific Fighters before IL-2 1946 came along, but it goes to show that a team of developers decided to try something new in the late 90s and over 25 years later has greatly paid off. Like who thought we would have gotten the Korean War (and the first since 1999 to my knowledge) after BoN because the outcome with present day North and South Korea is what people mostly know about it, and as for aircraft used during the conflict, it's mostly limited to just American jets vs MiGs. There is a reason why the Korean War is known as the Forgotten War. With the Odessa map, that team didn't have to do it since there's nothing that significant about the area in general during the war: it was another place the Germans captured in 1941, and another place the Soviets recaptured in 1944. But they felt it was worth doing and so did the devs. The devs also didn't need to add the Fw-189, they could have just added the IL-4 or late war Pe-2 to give the Soviets another flyable bomber or the Hs 123 but they went ahead with the Fw-189 to give us something new. Lastly, saying that the Italian Front of WW1 wouldn't be worth doing is like saying that it's not worth doing the Korean War or the Eastern Front of WW2 because of their obscurity compared to the Western Front or other conflicts. It would be appealing if someone gave it a try: we'd have planes people are quite familiar with like the Camel, R.E.8, SPADs, Hanriot and Nieuports and offer some unique and cool looking planes like the Caproni Ca.3 three engine bombers, Ansaldos, Macchi M5 flying boat. The front would also be mostly static from May 1915 to October 1917 along the Isonzo River until Erwin Rommel pushed the Italians to the Piave River where the front line remained until November 1918. Obviously if the devs covered WW1 in the Korea engine there would be a small Arras or Verdun map to go alongside the Italian Front/Gulf of Venice map. Edited March 27 by Enceladus828 Matthew 6:21, "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."
BlitzPig_EL Posted March 27 Posted March 27 I'd like to see the Adriatic. Flying a Macchi M.5 flying boat fighter has been a dream of mine for years. 1 2
PaperPilot Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 3 hours ago, LukeFF said: Please keep in mind that some of these projects, like the glider and the IAR80, are created by 3rd-party modelers, so development time and costs are significantly reduced. They also provide valuable experience for these teams - the I-153, for instance, was made by the same person who built the IAR80. Interesting about the I-153. I should’ve known. Edited March 27 by PaperPilot
PaperPilot Posted March 27 Posted March 27 7 hours ago, XQ_Lothar29 said: It's better if they're version F!! I would like to see both. But If they could only do one I think it should be the F-2 or F-4. The Bf-110 C were few in number on the Eastern Front from the beggining so I know I shouldn't expect such an aircraft to come this way. But still, I think the Bf-110F would fill in many gaps in the Pilot Career mode. On 3/24/2026 at 4:31 AM, Kurfurst said: The C series were already a "fixed" Me 210 airframe, very similar to the 410 expect for having weaker DB 605s instead of 603s. That is very interesting. Thanks Kurfurst 1
Bell Posted March 28 Posted March 28 10 hours ago, LukeFF said: Please keep in mind that some of these projects, like the glider and the IAR80, are created by 3rd-party modelers, so development time and costs are significantly reduced. They also provide valuable experience for these teams - the I-153, for instance, was made by the same person who built the IAR80. yeah what BlitzPig_EL said was really puzzling.
BraveSirRobin Posted March 28 Posted March 28 27 minutes ago, Bell said: yeah what BlitzPig_EL said was really puzzling. No, it really wasn’t. He’s right. 3
Art-J Posted March 28 Posted March 28 At this point in time, current and further development of content for GB is driven mostly by 3rd party enthusiasts as their afterwork hobby projects. Nothing wrong about that and 1C team has long encouraged 3rd parties to come forward and assist in keeping the old sim alive. However, it just means - if you want these Spanish war planes and maps to be added, you must find a group of guys willing (and capable) to build them in their spare time. 3
Bell Posted March 28 Posted March 28 46 minutes ago, Art-J said: However, it just means - if you want these Spanish war planes and maps to be added, you must find a group of guys willing (and capable) to build them in their spare time. I didn't mean IL-2 GB by saying dedicated Spainish Civil War fight sim...
MDzmitry Posted March 28 Posted March 28 12 минут назад, Bell сказал: I didn't mean IL-2 GB by saying dedicated Spainish Civil War fight sim... This part of the forum is dedicated to Il-2 GB, assumptions are to be expected
BlitzPig_EL Posted March 28 Posted March 28 The sim, any sim really, needs more float planes and flying boats. Be sure. 2
BlitzPig_EL Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) For the Fleet Air Arm I am thinking more along the lines of the Walrus and Sunderland... For the US, and many other users, of course the PBY, and the Curtiss SOC. Edited March 28 by BlitzPig_EL 1
Bulldog Posted March 28 Posted March 28 Some pics I took of the Sunderland at RAF Hendon (not very good lighting). And those two chaps are Brazo and Bulldog of Loose Deuce squadron. BD 6 2
sevenless Posted March 28 Author Posted March 28 4 hours ago, Bulldog said: 👍 Spitfire Mk I, Mk IIa. That´ll be my dream for the game. or a LF MkVb with clipped wings... 3 3
Avimimus Posted March 29 Posted March 29 On 3/27/2026 at 1:48 PM, BlitzPig_EL said: You misunderstood me, it's nothing personal, and I actually find the Heinkel fighters quite interesting. It's just that being in the combat flight sim world for 20+ years and seeing countless posts wanting obscure aircraft or conflict zones (Spanish Civil War, Japanese conquest of China in the 30s, Italian/Austro-Hungarian front in WW1, etc ...) I know it's never going to happen. I don't like it, but these things are very niche and the audience for them is nowhere near as large as the Western European or Russian fronts in WW2. Developers have to go where the money is, and it's not in these "lesser" fronts, where you and I would like to play. Sad but true. Well, this is likely true. However, a few observations: 1) First, I don't think people dreaming about such things is a problem. Dreaming only really becomes an issue when people think that something is very likely (leading to disappointment), or feel somehow entitled for it to come into existence. However, unlike the 8th Airforce and the B-17 (which has appeared in many past flight simulators and thus many people would assume) - a lot of these theatres are so rare that people can't make such an assumption. We can't really be that disappointed if it doesn't happen. 2) People said that the Eastern European front would never be modelled as it was too niche. Oleg Maddox changed that. The creation of the sim caused a lot of people to become interested in the theatre of operations... so we shouldn't entirely assume that people have to already be interested before the sim is created. 3) The Spanish Civil War was actually featured in a commercially released combat flight simulator (Luftwaffe Commander). 4) We've seen third party partnerships sometimes bring relatively obscure things to market in the past (although a full module would seem less likely than a Collector Plane - it looks like the Karelia team might ultimately bring three or more Finnish aircraft to market and a map - so essentially a half-module). 1
PaperPilot Posted March 29 Posted March 29 1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said: The Spitfire is such a supremely beautiful aircraft. Agreed. I would like to see the Spitfire Mk.XVI as that was used in Belgium and Western Germany, no?
PaperPilot Posted March 29 Posted March 29 On 3/21/2026 at 7:49 AM, JG53_Jaguar said: Any idea, when we might possibly see Bf-109 G-10 please ? Not right now, at least. We'll see what happens in the next few years.
Avimimus Posted March 29 Posted March 29 I'd kind-of like to see an FR-47 Seafire. It was the final spitfire variant and fixed a lot of the flaws in the later variants. Plus contra-rotating props. 1
PaperPilot Posted March 29 Posted March 29 54 minutes ago, Avimimus said: I'd kind-of like to see an FR-47 Seafire. It was the final spitfire variant and fixed a lot of the flaws in the later variants. Plus contra-rotating props. Where in IL-2 Great Battles would it fit? Normandy?
Avimimus Posted March 29 Posted March 29 59 minutes ago, PaperPilot said: Where in IL-2 Great Battles would it fit? Normandy? Korea. The 800 NAS flew them in 1950 (a bit early for the semi-dynamic campaign, but doable for a scripted campaign). They conducted raids on both coasts of North Korea until the Seafires were all too worn out, and then returned with Seafires. 1
PaperPilot Posted March 29 Posted March 29 4 hours ago, Avimimus said: Korea. The 800 NAS flew them in 1950 (a bit early for the semi-dynamic campaign, but doable for a scripted campaign). They conducted raids on both coasts of North Korea until the Seafires were all too worn out, and then returned with Seafires. That’s very interesting. Thanks
BlitzPig_EL Posted March 30 Posted March 30 The FAA probably suffered more Seafire losses from deck landings than they did from enemy action. The Spitfire made a terrible base to build a carrier aircraft from.
PaperPilot Posted March 30 Posted March 30 7 hours ago, BlitzPig_EL said: The Spitfire is such a supremely beautiful aircraft. It sure is.
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