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mrtomek
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I think that more modifications for Me-410 (like historical underbelly 4xSC50/SD70 - really needed) are far more better and also simpler and quicker to implement. Remember, that Me-410 in Il-2 is already fantastic plane, but lacking more bombs - is a bit useless. Currently mainly for bomber intercepting.

See also this:

 

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PaperPilot
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I know, what about the Fw-190 A-4?

I know it's just another Fw-190A variant, but at least it as some differences to the Fw-190 A-3 and A-5, and you could use it on multiple Eastern Front maps like Leningrad and Kuban, as well as on the Normandy Map. It was a major subvariant nonetheless. 

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76.IAP-Black
Posted
6 hours ago, PaperPilot said:

I know, what about the Fw-190 A-4?

I know it's just another Fw-190A variant, but at least it as some differences to the Fw-190 A-3 and A-5, and you could use it on multiple Eastern Front maps like Leningrad and Kuban, as well as on the Normandy Map. It was a major subvariant nonetheless. 

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I dont see the need for the A4, when we have already the A5 ingame.
Differences are not really that noticeable. 

Just the number "A4" would fit better into a specific years .. thats it 

 

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PaperPilot
Posted (edited)
12 hours ago, 76.IAP-Black said:

I dont see the need for the A4, when we have already the A5 ingame.
Differences are not really that noticeable. 

Just the number "A4" would fit better into a specific years .. thats it 

 

It would serve a purpose in late 1942 to early 1943 pilot career modes, where it is too early for the A-5 and too late for the A-3. And some may see it as a cash grab, but it would be another form of revenue for the IL-2 dev team which woud go to helping fund future projects in Korea and beyond. 

Besides, they might see it as a valuable aircraft if they were to change plans a little and do a 1942-43 pilot career around Leningrad.

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Avimimus
Posted
13 hours ago, 76.IAP-Black said:

I dont see the need for the A4, when we have already the A5 ingame.
Differences are not really that noticeable. 

Just the number "A4" would fit better into a specific years .. thats it 

 

It is actually probably more interesting than the A9 would be.

The A4 has a short nose - so it should have handling characteristics similar to the A3 when flown as a fighter (better harmonised controls than the other variants), but when flown as a bomber would have slightly worse handling than the A5. It would also be a chance to add a few field mods that the A5 doesn't have (to model the early "G" before it was even redesignated as much.)

But something like a He-112 or He-162 would probably add more variety than another Fw-190 or Bf-109 variant would.

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PaperPilot
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1 hour ago, Avimimus said:

The A4 has a short nose - so it should have handling characteristics similar to the A3 when flown as a fighter (better harmonised controls than the other variants), but when flown as a bomber would have slightly worse handling than the A5. It would also be a chance to add a few field mods that the A5 doesn't have (to model the early "G" before it was even redesignated as much.)

Very interesting piece of information.

PaperPilot
Posted
1 hour ago, Avimimus said:

But something like a He-112 or He-162 would probably add more variety than another Fw-190 or Bf-109 variant would.

I can see where you are coming from. Exotics like the He-112 and He-162 would turn a lot more heads than just another Bf-109 or Fw-190 variant. However, what if something like a Fw-190 A-4 could be part of a list of 6-8 aircraft for an expansion for the Leningrad module where they covered from early 1942 to late 1943 so the pilot career mode is continuous? They wouldn't have to start from scratch, and this would be a paid addon where this could be another source of revenue.

German 

  • Bf-110 F-2
  • Do-217 E-5
  • Fw-190 A-4
  • Ju-87 B-2

Soviet

  • IL-4 Model 1942 and 43
  • LaGG-3 Series 35
  • P-40 M-1
  • Pe-2 Model 1943

 

PaperPilot
Posted (edited)
On 3/24/2026 at 8:13 AM, mrtomek said:

I think that more modifications for Me-410 (like historical underbelly 4xSC50/SD70 - really needed) are far more better and also simpler and quicker to implement. Remember, that Me-410 in Il-2 is already fantastic plane, but lacking more bombs - is a bit useless. Currently mainly for bomber intercepting.

See also this:

 

Fair point. One plane that they haven't explored much in terms of variants in the Bf-110. I would like to see the Bf-110 C-4/7 (either or) and the Bf-110 F-2/4 (again, either or). They could have a use in pilot career somewhere on the Eastern Front. 

Bf 110 C Review by Brett Green (Airfix 1/72)

Blueprints > WW2 Airplanes > Messerschmitt > Messerschmitt Bf 110 F

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LuftManu
Posted

Hey guys! really interesting topic. And also, great to see more people asking for more planes! I hope that means the team can make them and be proffitable.

In any case, I think that the aircraft shown for this 2026 are a really great addition and cover big gaps. 

The A-20G and the B-25C/D Can be used on both fronts and give us some level bombers for the Soviets in a 44 scenario. Same for Europe. And also great to hear about the P-39 and even the 47M, a great ride to fight agains the Ta-152.

If I was to choose more aircraft and if the team wants to keep doing some things for GB I would clearly go for  different variants. It would be easier and cover more gaps. I would definetly avoid more 109s and 190s.

 

All in all, I feel GB did and does a great job covering tons of planes already, this would be to round out the experience 🙂


Early war:
Ju-87 B-2 (The early Stuka. This can be used in various careers, even in a "fan" Battle of Britain).

Bf-110 F (Besides the low powered E model, this one could cover the gap till the G appears in Kuban timeframe, offering better heavy fighter capabilities in the air).

P-40C (For Moscow and Leningrad, this lighter version of the P-40 might be really fun to fight against Emils and Friedrichs).

Mid war:
LaGG-3 Ser. 66 (The "comeback" of the LaGG. Faster, slats and fun to drive around in 43. I've read around these parts that it was as fast as an original La-5).

Late war:

Ju-88S (A faster 88, used in Normandy IIRC).
Pe-2 late version, for example 205 series with improved aerodynamics.

As for new planes, of course there are some cool things that might appear, but I bet they might be tons of work if the team now is focusing on Korea.

An Il-4, a Fiat G.50 etc... could be great (And let's hope the Finnish team can make the second one)

 

Kind regards!

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Bajzon20
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On 3/19/2026 at 1:57 PM, FAFL said:

 

 

 

The Bell P-39Q Airacobra of the Free French Air Force (Forces Aériennes Françaises Libres) primarily saw action in the Mediterranean and Western European theaters from late 1943 to 1944. 

Key battles and campaigns involving French-flown P-39Qs include:

  • Italian Campaign (1943-1944): French squadrons (specifically GC 3/6 "Roussillon") utilized the P-39Q for low-level ground support and combat air patrols over Italy, supporting the Allied advance towards Rome.
  • Operation Dragoon (1944): Following the Allied invasion of Southern France, French P-39 squadrons supported the rapid advance of ground forces through Southern France.
  • Battles in the Vosges and Alsace (1944): The French P-39Q units, such as GC 1/4 "Navarre" and GC 3/6 "Roussillon," were heavily engaged in ground-attack missions during the Liberation of France, particularly during the harsh winter fighting in the Vosges Mountains and the surrounding area.
  • Defense of French Corsica (1944): P-39s were used to patrol and protect the Allied-controlled island of Corsica from Axis raids.

The French Air Force received nearly 200 P-39s (including the Q variant) through Lend-Lease.

I would rather see Free France expansion for career mode with their squadrons than another BF 109.

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migmadmarine
Posted
5 hours ago, Bajzon20 said:

I would rather see Free France expansion for career mode with their squadrons than another BF 109.

How close are those regions to our existing maps?

Flieger
Posted
21 hours ago, Avimimus said:

But something like a He-112 or He-162 would probably add more variety than another Fw-190 or Bf-109 variant would.

Even as a fan of the 162 (I have quite a lot sources like production progress reports or the pilot's manual) I would like to see the A-9 first. It was the last, best of the radial-powered 190s; a clear improvement of the A-8, not as capable a fighter as the D-9 but a far superior fighter-bomber. Also it might be our only chance to get a late war 190 with removable outer wing cannons. And it would relatively easy to model.

109s... yes, I think we are mostly done in terms of flight experiences. 

PaperPilot
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1 hour ago, Flieger said:

Even as a fan of the 162 (I have quite a lot sources like production progress reports or the pilot's manual) I would like to see the A-9 first. It was the last, best of the radial-powered 190s; a clear improvement of the A-8, not as capable a fighter as the D-9 but a far superior fighter-bomber. Also it might be our only chance to get a late war 190 with removable outer wing cannons. And it would relatively easy to model.

109s... yes, I think we are mostly done in terms of flight experiences. 

I still think that the Bf-109 G-10 will eventually need to be made for Bodenplatte Career. But you are right in the fact that other planes need to be explored in the game other than just another Bf-109 before the G-10 is made.  

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PaperPilot
Posted
13 hours ago, LuftManu said:

Hey guys! really interesting topic. And also, great to see more people asking for more planes! I hope that means the team can make them and be proffitable.

In any case, I think that the aircraft shown for this 2026 are a really great addition and cover big gaps. 

The A-20G and the B-25C/D Can be used on both fronts and give us some level bombers for the Soviets in a 44 scenario. Same for Europe. And also great to hear about the P-39 and even the 47M, a great ride to fight agains the Ta-152.

If I was to choose more aircraft and if the team wants to keep doing some things for GB I would clearly go for  different variants. It would be easier and cover more gaps. I would definetly avoid more 109s and 190s.

 

All in all, I feel GB did and does a great job covering tons of planes already, this would be to round out the experience 🙂


Early war:
Ju-87 B-2 (The early Stuka. This can be used in various careers, even in a "fan" Battle of Britain).

Bf-110 F (Besides the low powered E model, this one could cover the gap till the G appears in Kuban timeframe, offering better heavy fighter capabilities in the air).

P-40C (For Moscow and Leningrad, this lighter version of the P-40 might be really fun to fight against Emils and Friedrichs).

Mid war:
LaGG-3 Ser. 66 (The "comeback" of the LaGG. Faster, slats and fun to drive around in 43. I've read around these parts that it was as fast as an original La-5).

Late war:

Ju-88S (A faster 88, used in Normandy IIRC).
Pe-2 late version, for example 205 series with improved aerodynamics.

As for new planes, of course there are some cool things that might appear, but I bet they might be tons of work if the team now is focusing on Korea.

An Il-4, a Fiat G.50 etc... could be great (And let's hope the Finnish team can make the second one)

 

Kind regards!

I like your thinking.

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Perhaps we could only see He 112 in a dedicated Spanish Civil War flight sim...

BlitzPig_EL
Posted

While I personally like the plane set of the Spanish Civil War, the chances of it being produced, by anyone, makes being struck by lightning seem like a sure thing.  

Posted
1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

While I personally like the plane set of the Spanish Civil War, the chances of it being produced, by anyone, makes being struck by lightning seem like a sure thing.  

You seem to have a lot of prejudice against me or Heinkel fighters. The number of He 112 in Spain is more than Ju 87 during Spanish Civil War.He112.jpg.5cd110989241b8fadeee12b72f8404eb.jpg

BlitzPig_EL
Posted

You misunderstood me, it's nothing personal, and I actually find the Heinkel fighters quite interesting.

It's just that being in the combat flight sim world for 20+ years and seeing countless posts wanting obscure aircraft or conflict zones (Spanish Civil War, Japanese conquest of China in the 30s, Italian/Austro-Hungarian front in WW1, etc ...) I know it's never going to happen.  I don't like it, but these things are very niche and the audience for them is nowhere near as large as the Western European or Russian fronts in WW2.  Developers have to go where the money is, and it's not in these "lesser" fronts, where you and I would like to play.

Sad but true.

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XQ_Lothar29
Posted
On 3/26/2026 at 3:47 AM, PaperPilot said:

Fair point. One plane that they haven't explored much in terms of variants in the Bf-110. I would like to see the Bf-110 C-4/7 (either or) and the Bf-110 F-2/4 (again, either or). They could have a use in pilot career somewhere on the Eastern Front. 

Bf 110 C Review by Brett Green (Airfix 1/72)

Blueprints > WW2 Airplanes > Messerschmitt > Messerschmitt Bf 110 F

It's better if they're version F!!

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1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

seeing countless posts wanting obscure aircraft

1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

but these things are very niche and the audience for them is nowhere near as large as the Western European or Russian fronts in WW2.  Developers have to go where the money is

I feel puzzled. Reply to what you said in another topic, how many audiences do IAR.80 have?

Oh I forgot CG-4A glider lol.

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LuftManu
Posted
1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

You misunderstood me, it's nothing personal, and I actually find the Heinkel fighters quite interesting.

It's just that being in the combat flight sim world for 20+ years and seeing countless posts wanting obscure aircraft or conflict zones (Spanish Civil War, Japanese conquest of China in the 30s, Italian/Austro-Hungarian front in WW1, etc ...) I know it's never going to happen.  I don't like it, but these things are very niche and the audience for them is nowhere near as large as the Western European or Russian fronts in WW2.  Developers have to go where the money is, and it's not in these "lesser" fronts, where you and I would like to play.

Sad but true.

As a Spaniard, I have to agree. Would love to fly over my hometown in Il-2? sure. But it's not going to happen.

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BlitzPig_EL
Posted
1 hour ago, Bell said:

I feel puzzled. Reply to what you said in another topic, how many audiences do IAR.80 have?

Oh I forgot CG-4A glider lol.

The IAR 80 was voted on a long time ago in a poll, I would have preferred something else, as to the Waco glider, a complete waste of developer's time to have be anything other than AI.  It's useless as a human flyable unit.

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  • 1C Game Studios
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Please keep in mind that some of these projects, like the glider and the IAR80, are created by 3rd-party modelers, so development time and costs are significantly reduced. They also provide valuable experience for these teams - the I-153, for instance, was made by the same person who built the IAR80.

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Dash,Polder
Posted

No dissing on my straight winged Corsair, she's a beaut and can hold her own well in the early half of the war.  The other bird to go to when you get Biff fatigue.

BlitzPig_EL
Posted

Interesting Luke, thanks for that info.

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