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AndreiTomescu
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6 hours ago, Jaegermeister said:

Whenever you attack a radar station designed to detect enemy aircraft it is a good idea to stay as low as possible and approach from behind a small land mass like an island

Yes, obviously that. What i was trying to figure out was this: the hole trip to the target was roughly 300+ km. Is the low level approach needed the hole way, or just about 100 km from target? As that higher you go, less fuel you burn. Have to check radar range for that radar model in museum.

Didn't know the min ground altitude for AI. To be noted that I've tested the AI by effectively skimming the mountain tops, just hopping above tree level, and the AI planes had no trouble dealing with that (compared with Early Access, where there were issues)

6 hours ago, Jaegermeister said:

Once you were rid of your ordnance and drop tanks, that would have been a good opportunity to put a couple of red stars on the side of your plane.

Yes, indeed. However I doubt a real life pilot, worried about making the 320 km trip back while loosing fuel, would have been so bold, or reckless. Except  for Jesse Brown, of course, but we know where that got him into. 🙂 

In sim life, after a long trip and a very successful bombing run, I guess i was more inclined to reduce risks. I am always trying to do things as it wasn't a game, but the real deal, and your missions design helps that, so really thank you for that: good immersion, that's what i'm looking for.

AndreiTomescu
Posted

ups! my bad.... sorry guys. All my doing. (the permanent bridge was used by civilians) Will give it another shot tonight.

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Jaegermeister
Posted
7 hours ago, AndreiTomescu said:

Yes, obviously that. What i was trying to figure out was this: the hole trip to the target was roughly 300+ km. Is the low level approach needed the hole way, or just about 100 km from target? As that higher you go, less fuel you burn. Have to check radar range for that radar model in museum.

Didn't know the min ground altitude for AI. To be noted that I've tested the AI by effectively skimming the mountain tops, just hopping above tree level, and the AI planes had no trouble dealing with that (compared with Early Access, where there were issues)

Yes, indeed. However I doubt a real life pilot, worried about making the 320 km trip back while loosing fuel, would have been so bold, or reckless. Except  for Jesse Brown, of course, but we know where that got him into. 🙂 

In sim life, after a long trip and a very successful bombing run, I guess i was more inclined to reduce risks. I am always trying to do things as it wasn't a game, but the real deal, and your missions design helps that, so really thank you for that: good immersion, that's what i'm looking for.

The radar was set up to detect bombers heading for the Yalu River so that fighters could be sent to intercept them. A quick search tells me the range was about 150 kilometers for a bomber at 8,000 meters altitude, which is roughly the distance you traveled over the water to target. The higher you are, the further away you can be detected, since radar travels in a straight line. Being below the horizon prevents the radar waves from reaching you, so in this case you were not visible to the radar until you flew up over the island with the AAA installation just short of the target area. At that point I would expect to see a pop up to about 1000 meters to acquire the target, flipping inverted to look through the canopy and then a diving attack to release bombs with enough altitude to prevent fragging yourself.

The AI minimum altitude applies to sea level. When you are over mountains, there is no minimum set altitude, they are simply programmed to avoid hitting the ground. That behavior has been improved in my experience also.

Since you keep getting fuel leaks, I am guessing you are dropping your bombs too low and getting shrapnel through your wings. That is modeled, and I have had it happen too. Try releasing bombs and pulling off target a little sooner to see if that fixes the problem. It looks like you may be done with your bombing missions by now though.

Our hero Jack Russell was very excited about becoming a fighter ace at the beginning, but it sounds like reality has crept in for both of you…

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AndreiTomescu
Posted (edited)
46 minutes ago, Jaegermeister said:

Our hero Jack Russell was very excited about becoming a fighter ace at the beginning, but it sounds like reality has crept in for both of you…

🤣😂 well said ! Truth to be told, i've became quite fond of Jack, and that is due to your excellent missions texts. Just my taste.

 

46 minutes ago, Jaegermeister said:

I am guessing you are dropping your bombs too low and getting shrapnel through your wings.

that is exactly what i am doing. But since whith this tehnique i am getting very good results, like really good, i'm not keen on changing it. Maybe to increase timer on bombs?? might be a thought.

Now i'm pretty sad, since i just have to redo the previous mission and then i'm down to the last. Sad that it's ending.....

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Jaegermeister
Posted
2 minutes ago, AndreiTomescu said:

🤣😂 well said ! Truth to be told, i've became quite fond of Jack, and that is due to your excellent missions texts. Just my taste.

 

that is exactly what i am doing. But since whith this tehnique i am getting very good results, like really good, i'm not keen on changing it. Maybe to increase timer on bombs?? might be a thought.

Now i'm pretty sad, since i just have to redo the previous mission and then i'm dowt to the last. Sad that it's ending.....

You can still drop in a 45 degree dive from about 500 feet and have enough time to pull away to one side or the other. Pulling up straight ahead puts you right over the bomb blast. Supposedly the shrapnel radius of a 1000lb bomb was about 1000 feet.

Don't be sad, the last mission might take you more than one try. :classic_biggrin:

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AndreiTomescu
Posted

ok.... sounds challenging! tell me one thing, and one thing only: should we respect mission description/text? like once the enemy planes are spotted, we drop fuel tanks to trick them?

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