So, what side we thinking and why?

[Avimimus]

Really! Interesting! They moved fast with that. Went from having multiple factions/parties to imposing a cult of personality overnight! It'll be interesting to learn more.

[Juri_JS]

1 hour ago, Avimimus said:

As for being underdogs - at the very start of the war didn't the DPRK effectively destroy the ROK's airforce? It is only once the 'U.N.' intervention begins in earnest that the tables start to turn and the DPRK loses air superiority?

In the first few days of the war the KPAF was actually quite successful during ground attack missions. Of course this changed when F-51s and F-80s arrived.

[LuftManu]

8 hours ago, Juri_JS said:

Initially I will mostly fly for North Korea, because my plan is to create a scripted Yak-9P campaign for the 56th "Guards Taejon" Fighter Aviation Regiment. For the KPAF the initial phase of the war can be done quite well on the map, only Taejon is outside the map area, where the unit earned its guard title, but this isn't a big issue.

No idea if people will be interested to fly as complete underdogs, but I think the units history is highly interesting. I already did some experiments using AI to create North Korean propaganda style posters for the campaign. The photo of Kim Il-Sung for the player's cockpit is also ready. 🙂

Count me in!

[jeanba]

13 hours ago, Juri_JS said:

Initially I will mostly fly for North Korea, because my plan is to create a scripted Yak-9P campaign for the 56th "Guards Taejon" Fighter Aviation Regiment. For the KPAF the initial phase of the war can be done quite well on the map, only Taejon is outside the map area, where the unit earned its guard title, but this isn't a big issue.

No idea if people will be interested to fly as complete underdogs, but I think the units history is highly interesting. I already did some experiments using AI to create North Korean propaganda style posters for the campaign. The photo of Kim Il-Sung for the player's cockpit is also ready. 🙂

I am always interested in the campaigns you create.

Though I usually intend to fly "Blue" + "Mig15bis", it would be an occasion to fly the "underdog"

[Aapje]

13 hours ago, Juri_JS said:

No idea if people will be interested to fly as complete underdogs

Of course. One of the best parts about the campaigns that different people make is exactly that people choose such diverse perspectives. For GB, I've flown as a French pilot in the Russian army and as a German reconnaissance pilot photographing sites in Britain.

[AndreiTomescu]

11 hours ago, Avimimus said:

think the Kim Il-Sung photo might put a lot of people off... also, I wonder how deep the cult of personality was - the DPRK had only existed for two years at the start of the war.

As for being underdogs - at the very start of the war didn't the DPRK effectively destroy the ROK's airforce? It is only once the 'U.N.' intervention begins in earnest that the tables start to turn and the DPRK loses air superiority?

1. Kim2Sung guy was an important figure in the resistance against the Japs/liberation army of Korea (the communist branch) stationed in China. So he was a personality before DPKR birth.

2. For you guys blesses without the "joy" of an overnight radical dictator getting into power and control, it's , of course, hard to believe that it can happen. Buy, yeah, it can. Just like Palpatine became Emperor. Once the propaganda machine and repression system gets into function, it works: fear is the key.

3. There was no South Korean airforce. Just some trainers and such. Americans rejected the proposition to provide Mustangs, as not to rise tension. So 'wiping out" ROK airforce was like taking candies from a baby. Of course afterwards papa bear came and took stance.

4. Kim2Sung is a person in history. Just like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Antonescu, and many others. Some see those evil, some saviours, and the perception changes upon current intentions/propaganda. None did only bad things, none did only good things.

In my job we have a saying: "the cut doesn't hurt a bit, but it depends on what side of the knife you're on".

Don't see why some intelligent person might be put off. He really existed and did what he did. Let's not mix today's passion with yesterday's facts. That way we'll fly smoother. 🙂 

10 hours ago, Avimimus said:

Went from having multiple factions/parties to imposing a cult of personality overnight! It'll be interesting to learn more.

Oh, yessss.....it happens soooo fast.....especially when there's a powerful deterrent by the cult's side. Like an army.

[AndreiTomescu]

4 hours ago, Aapje said:

For GB, I've flown as a French pilot in the Russian army and as a German reconnaissance pilot photographing sites in Britain.

Exactly right. This brings different perspective on a situation, huge diversity and quality on a sim, and above all the reality that pilots from all sides were so similar. Really hope to enjoy that in Il2K just as much as in GB

[LukeFF]

Guys, let's not stray any farther into politics, please. 🙂 

[CzechTexan]

In the past I've mostly flown for the Red Air Force because it just seemed more interesting.  In the old "1946" I liked to fly in Burma and Pacific for Blue. 

In Korea, I'll fly both sides but probably more for Blue.

[AndreiTomescu]

Riight& true, gentlemen. Regarding somehow the side one flyes: if you are blue side, audio is English. But for the red side? It can't be Russian, since they were forbidden do use it on open radio. I was really curious about this, never read about this in the dev's blogs.

[brickcommander]

24 minutes ago, AndreiTomescu said:

Riight& true, gentlemen. Regarding somehow the side one flyes: if you are blue side, audio is English. But for the red side? It can't be Russian, since they were forbidden do use it on open radio. I was really curious about this, never read about this in the dev's blogs.

At least sometimes they did spek russian on comms and it was intercepted by the US but kept secret to avoid escalating to a direct superpoer confrontation.

 

I will probably start with 2 parallel careers "continuing" my pilots from GB (just reusing their names). I am thinking to start with the f-80 or 84 for blue before switching to sabres. I will probably go straight for the mig on red but maybe I will start with one of the piston engines.

 

 

[Xtremist]

Will it be possible to fly with a photo of Kim Jong Un in the cockpit? Asking for a friend. 

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Edited June 4 by Xtremist

[LuftManu]

6 hours ago, AndreiTomescu said:

Riight& true, gentlemen. Regarding somehow the side one flyes: if you are blue side, audio is English. But for the red side? It can't be Russian, since they were forbidden do use it on open radio. I was really curious about this, never read about this in the dev's blogs.

Hi!

On steam it says there will be Korea, Russian, Chinese and English audio so I expect to have different voicelines for each country.  Another improvement over GB IMO.

 

Also, about localization, don't take this image into account. I'm sure more languages will ve availible for the game texts. 

Kind regards,

 

 

[AndreiTomescu]

1 hour ago, LuftManu said:

On steam it says there will be Korea, Russian, Chinese and English audio so I expect to have different voicelines for each country

That is AWESOME! good job,1CGS ! See guys, that they took into account our previous requests and did this? Many thx.

[CatteMoto]

I will of course be flying both but for aesthetic and underdog roleplay reasons I will prefer flying red. 

 

It is also fun to imagine an alternate history where the 'Cold War' died on the Korean peninsula 

[Flatspin]

My favorite planes in this sim are the F-86 and IL-10 so-o…my answer is: yes. 

[javelina]

I like to fly both sides.  I like both the F-86 & MiG