SIX! New planes for IL2-GB announced!

[Bajzon20]

1 hour ago, Nerpo said:

Yes, this will be a serious bomber! 😁
The FV-189 is also very much needed as a reconnaissance and spotter aircraft. And we also need missions for it. Similar to those created by Kraut1 for the IL-2.
(So look, we'll live to see the Il-4!)

For me, the most interesting thing will be flying in a Russian B-25 or A-20G

[Pausehelio]

Yeah B-25

[sevenless]

With the B-25 finally flyable, there might be a Catch-22...

[PaperPilot]

Another plane I would like to see for Great Battles is the Mosquito Mk.IV. 

[sandmarken]

15 hours ago, Calos_01 said:

the early Mk IX.

One thing I have wondered is how different the early Spitfire IX performance is from the one we have with a Merlin 70 engine? I know the Merlin 61 was rated for higher altitudes, but perhaps not as high as the Merlin 70. But they might perform similarly at usual IL-2 altitudes? Im not sure we woud ever get an early IX so it might be the closest we can have. 

[MDzmitry]

1 час назад, sandmarken сказал:

One thing I have wondered is how different the early Spitfire IX performance is from the one we have with a Merlin 70 engine? I know the Merlin 61 was rated for higher altitudes, but perhaps not as high as the Merlin 70. But they might perform similarly at usual IL-2 altitudes? Im not sure we woud ever get an early IX so it might be the closest we can have. 

Besides the lower optimal altitude of the 61, it also had a lower WEP boost, limited to +15 lbs. A bit later on Merlin 63 appeared with the same altitude, but now +18 lbs boost. Then it was subsided by Merlin 66 primarily (lower gear switch altitudes, same +18 lbs boost), with a small bunch of Merlin 70s for higher-altitude interceptors and/or recon planes (if memory serves me right).

Edited March 10 by MDzmitry

[sandmarken]

28 minutes ago, MDzmitry said:

Besides the lower optimal altitude of the 61, it also had a lower WEP boost, limited to +15 lbs. A bit later on Merlin 63 appeared with the same altitude, but now +18 lbs boost. Then it was subsided by Merlin 66 primarily (lower gear switch altitudes, same +18 lbs boost), with a small bunch of Merlin 70s for higher-altitude interceptors and/or recon planes (if memory serves me right).

In other words, a Spitfire IXc with a Merlin 70 isn't a good substitute for a 1942 scenario?

[Calos_01]

1 hour ago, sandmarken said:

One thing I have wondered is how different the early Spitfire IX performance is from the one we have with a Merlin 70 engine? I know the Merlin 61 was rated for higher altitudes, but perhaps not as high as the Merlin 70. But they might perform similarly at usual IL-2 altitudes? Im not sure we woud ever get an early IX so it might be the closest we can have. 

You are right we may never get it and the mk. IX we have is quite close.

46 minutes ago, MDzmitry said:

Besides the lower optimal altitude of the 61, it also had a lower WEP boost, limited to +15 lbs. A bit later on Merlin 63 appeared with the same altitude, but now +18 lbs boost. Then it was subsided by Merlin 66 primarily (lower gear switch altitudes, same +18 lbs boost), with a small bunch of Merlin 70s for higher-altitude interceptors and/or recon planes (if memory serves me right).

There are also some visual differences (short carburetor intake, different shape of elevator balance, different wheels etc.), but of course quite minor.

16 minutes ago, sandmarken said:

In other words, a Spitfire IXc with a Merlin 70 isn't a good substitute for a 1942 scenario?

I would say the best we have 😊

Edited March 10 by Calos_01

[sandmarken]

4 minutes ago, Calos_01 said:

I would say the best we have 😊

Only if its not wastly different in terms of speed and other performance abilities. I have tried flying it with the 70 against fw190a3 and 109f4 and G2 and i must say i feel superior. I never understood history to that when the early IX came that it was better, but a stopgap to counter the 190. 

But also in general the Spitfire flies very well against AI tactics in the game. I had a terrible time trying to fly a squadron of yak1.23s against 109s the other day. The friendly AI was slaugterd by the 109s. 😅

[MDzmitry]

3 минуты назад, sandmarken сказал:

I never understood history to that when the early IX came that it was better, but a stopgap to counter the 190. 

The story is that early Merlin 60 Spitfire prototype appeared around autumn 1941, nearly the same time as first Fw 190s were encountered. 

The original plan was to finally upgrade the airframe to Mk.III standard (which wasn't put into production with the preference given to the Mk.V, the Brits were expecting the 2nd Battle of Britain and needed a better performer ASAP). That improved design later resulted in the Mk.VIII. But back to early 1942: Fw 190 becomes more than just a single case of poor luck and instead a common enemy, so the same story as with Mk.V happens: "Let's put the new desing's engine into the old airframe". This is the origin of the "stopgap" reputation. The performance ended up being practically on par with Mk.VIII, so Mk.IX was kept in the production until the very end.

[Sayan]

04.03.2026 в 18:19, Czech693 сказал:

Fw-189?  A recon plane?  Are you going to fly around and report enemy ground formations?  To whom?  Becomes a target plane.

The technology of photo reconnaissance and artillery fire adjustment has long been developed and used in the RоF.

Why it is not used in the GB is a big mystery and a big question for the developers.

[sandmarken]

2 hours ago, Sayan said:

Why it is not used in the GB is a big mystery and a big question for the developers.

It is, i have had missions like this in both career for ww1 and ww2 planes. And also i have used the script to make my own missions with artillery adjustments.

Edited March 10 by sandmarken

[Calos_01]

3 hours ago, sandmarken said:

i must say i feel superior.

That may well be true. I remember reading some reports by Harry Broadhurst, and it seemed to me that he felt the same way in his Mk. IX over Dieppe (Dieppe raid) when he encountered the FW 190.   

Edited March 10 by Calos_01

[AndreiTomescu]

5 hours ago, Sayan said:

The technology of photo reconnaissance and artillery fire adjustment has long been developed and used in the RоF.

Why it is not used in the GB is a big mystery and a big question for the developers.

the number of aircrafts doing this for all airfleets is outstanding high. the fun having in this missions is really great, at least for me. 

the question remains, but we'll have just a bit of "revenge" 🙂 soon. maybe more people doing and enjoyng this will bring more campaigns with this. plus the new reccon dedicated plane coming..... so far, Juri's Invasion watch is the only campaign dedicated to such work. so far.

the mechanics for this are a bit clumsy, but enjoyable. 

[sevenless]

50 minutes ago, AndreiTomescu said:

the number of aircrafts doing this for all airfleets is outstanding high. the fun having in this missions is really great, at least for me. 

the question remains, but we'll have just a bit of "revenge" 🙂 soon. maybe more people doing and enjoyng this will bring more campaigns with this. plus the new reccon dedicated plane coming..... so far, Juri's Invasion watch is the only campaign dedicated to such work. so far.

the mechanics for this are a bit clumsy, but enjoyable. 

Example: NAGr 13, Normandy, Fw 190A3

Unit, plane and skin are already there. I guess they never got around to create career templates for such recce units. The Arado 234 unit has those missions, btw.

[Bulldog]

This is what we need: the Henschel Hs 123!

 

 

[migmadmarine]

2 hours ago, AndreiTomescu said:

the number of aircrafts doing this for all airfleets is outstanding high. the fun having in this missions is really great, at least for me. 

the question remains, but we'll have just a bit of "revenge" 🙂 soon. maybe more people doing and enjoyng this will bring more campaigns with this. plus the new reccon dedicated plane coming..... so far, Juri's Invasion watch is the only campaign dedicated to such work. so far.

the mechanics for this are a bit clumsy, but enjoyable. 

Would love to see an F-4 or F-5 along with some earlier RAF and Luftwaffe fighter conversions now that you mention it...

[AndreiTomescu]

2 hours ago, sevenless said:

they never got around to create career templates for such recce units

Nor am I thinking for such. Scripted campaigns, that's the way

[jokash]

Hs 123 would be pretty good addition.It fought on all maps currently ingame other than Leningrad (on the east front).

[PaperPilot]

1 hour ago, jokash said:

Hs 123 would be pretty good addition.It fought on all maps currently ingame other than Leningrad (on the east front).

Here's what German aircraft I think are relevant to this game:

• Bf-109 G-10
• Do-17Z
• Do-217E
• Do-217M
• Fw-190 A-9
• He-111 H-20
• Hs-123A
• Ju-87 B-2
• Ju-88 S-1
• Me-163A

Edited March 10 by PaperPilot

[Kubert]

1 hour ago, PaperPilot said:

Me-163A

In my opinion this is very, VERY...irrelevant plane for the game. High altitude rocket interceptor designed to shoot down heavy bombers.  I would pick only BF, Hs and old Stuka from this list...maybe FW. 

[migmadmarine]

I'd be game for the Do-17z as well as the Finns operated them, would add an option for the Lenningrad map.

 

[PaperPilot]

1 hour ago, Kubert said:

In my opinion this is very, VERY...irrelevant plane for the game. High altitude rocket interceptor designed to shoot down heavy bombers.  I would pick only BF, Hs and old Stuka from this list...maybe FW. 

The Me-163 is cool though, you've got to admit, right?

[sevenless]

1 hour ago, PaperPilot said:

The Me-163 is cool though, you've got to admit, right?

Sure, but that wicked rocket thing killed more pilots than the enemy and it had a flight time of only about 15min. Makes for very short career lifespan, dont you think?

[Enceladus828]

7 hours ago, PaperPilot said:

• Fw-190 A-9
• He-111 H-20
• Hs-123A

At this point it just makes sense to add the Hs-123 and maybe the Dorniers. Not saying that there will never be another Bf-109 or Fw-190 added the game — we got the E-4 for S&L — it’s just what would another one of those planes add that aren’t already in the game? It starts coming off as milking a cow already low on milk when there are other cows with a lot more milk to be milked. I for one am still keen on seeing the Bf-110F-2 and Pe-3 which can be used on many maps in the game and would fill in some gaps (the Ju-88C-6 now has a counterpart on the Eastern Front).