Off-topic posts about forum languages

[YoYo]

12 minutes ago, =ILS=_Abu_27 said:

那个load的意思cpu负载吗？ 我看帧数越稳定load数值越低也就是5%以下，我很想知道他是在表示什么的。

Po co znowu piszesz nie po angielsku? Sądziłem, że zrozumiałeś. To nie jest takie trudne użyć tłumacza i wstawić tutaj treść po angielsku. 🙇

Edited June 29 by YoYo

[Xtremist]

2 hours ago, =ILS=_Abu_27 said:

Najpierw przyjrzyj się odpowiedzi administratora, później naucz się nowoczesnych technologii, a na koniec skup się na samej treści, celem komunikacji jest komunikacja, a nie szukanie kłopotów, nowoczesna technologia pomaga Ci komunikować się bez barier, nie wstydź się.

There are separate forum threads for non-english conversation, for a reason. 

Kezdhetném én is az erőlködést az anyanyelvemmel, de inkább próbálok tekintettel lenni a többségre... 

Edited June 29 by Xtremist

[YoYo]

2 hours ago, =ILS=_Abu_27 said:

Najpierw przyjrzyj się odpowiedzi administratora, później naucz się nowoczesnych technologii, a na koniec skup się na samej treści, celem komunikacji jest komunikacja, a nie szukanie kłopotów, nowoczesna technologia pomaga Ci komunikować się bez barier, nie wstydź się.

Przestań pisać bzdury. To jest forum anglojęzyczne. 2/3 z nas na co dzień używa innych języków niż j. angielski. Wyobraź sobie, że każdy tu by pisał w swoim języku, miałbyś 70% zawartości innej niż angielski. Tak tworzy się bałagan i zrozum to wreszcie, że nie jesteś jakimś wyjątkiem. Nie masz też tu postów administratora na ten temat, natomiast warto byś zapoznał się z regułami forum. Skoro potrafisz użyć translatora w jedną stronę, doskonale potrafisz to zrobić i w druga stronę (co już raz zrobiłeś i byłem przekonany, że zrozumiałeś swój błąd), więc nie bądź ostatnim leniem i nie zabieraj nam czasu skoro potrafisz tak dobrze używać tłumacza. Jest to część anglojęzyczna i szanuj innych użytkowników. Jak chcesz pisać po chińsku, pisz w innej części: 

https://forum.il2-series.com/forum/23-chit-chat/

1 hour ago, Husar said:

You are absolutely right — old MSAA is still the best. However, a deferred rendering engine does not allow MSAA to properly work with lighting, shaders, textures, and post-processing effects. For that, we would need a forward renderer or something completely new.

I can live with some  flickering edges in the world because, for me, what matters most is spotting, as well as aircraft aspect and identification — these need to be sharp and clear. This is only really achievable without zoom with MSAA.

I was dueling in Berloga using DLSS Quality and preset M, and I had to constantly use zoom to track mid-range targets, which is not ideal in a competitive environment.

That's right 👍, I also use MSAA in DCS, although this simulator also has other options. The key factors are latency, image sharpness, and image quality. I value all of these things most in MSAA. In my experience, it's usually less load than DLAA, which, however, results in a less sharp image (more blur), although it does nicely smooth out protruding peaks (AA).

[Panzerlang]

Right click, translate to English, one second job. Is that an Edge-only thing?

[YoYo]

13 minutes ago, Panzerlang said:

Right click, translate to English, one second job. Is that an Edge-only thing?

You're not always in a browser, after all. Sometimes you check the forum on different devices (smartwatch, smartphone, etc.) and don't always have a translator available. Besides, if I'm reading, I want to read it in English right away. We're not the ones who have problems with that, are we? On the other hand, I think 60-70% of us don't use English on a daily basis. What if everyone wrote in their own language? That creates a mess. If someone can also use a translator in the other direction, they can just as easily paste the translated content in English here. It's so simple and just a single click, am I right?

Btw.

This Forum is a continuation of that (the reason was that logins were not linked to the user account from IL-2 store).

Other languages are here:

https://forum.il2-series.com/forum/23-chit-chat/

Please respect that.

Edited June 29 by YoYo

[LuftManu]

9 minutes ago, YoYo said:

You're not always in a browser, after all. Sometimes you check the forum on different devices (smartwatch, smartphone, etc.) and don't always have a translator available. On the other hand, I think 60-70% of us don't use English on a daily basis. What if everyone wrote in their own language? That creates a mess. If someone can also use a translator in the other direction, they can just as easily paste the translated content in English here. It's so simple and just a single click, am I right?

Btw.

This Forum is a continuation of that (the reason was that logins were not linked to the user account from IL-2 store).

Other languages are here:

https://forum.il2-series.com/forum/23-chit-chat/

Please respect that.

Hello YoYo. You are citing rules from the old forum.

These are the new ones. 

https://forum.il2-series.com/guidelines/

Kind regards,

[YoYo]

3 minutes ago, LuftManu said:

Hello YoYo. You are citing rules from the old forum.

These are the new ones. 

https://forum.il2-series.com/guidelines/

Kind regards,

As I wrote earlier, the current one is a continuation and the reason was login issues.

@BlackSix Could you explain this? Maybe it's worth clarifying this as well? Sorry for the off-topic (earlier pages, please look there). Thank you.

[LuftManu]

2 minutes ago, YoYo said:

As I wrote earlier, the current one is a continuation and the reason was login issues.

@BlackSix Could you explain this? Maybe it's worth clarifying this as well? Sorry for the off-topic (earlier pages, please look there). Thank you.

Check back with Blacksix, but there is no rules to prevent people from speaking in their languages. There are categories or sections prepared for that, but there is not a rule.

Let's wait for his response and stop Off topic.

Kind regards,

[=ILS=_Abu_27]

7 minutes ago, =ILS=_Abu_27 said:

我刚看到你的消息，会给你一个真诚的回复。首先，我从没想过这件琐事会让你如此困扰，以至于你偏离了我们最初关于VR设置的话题。

我不是这里的新会员。我以前在这个论坛上有账号，那时也发过不少评论。那时候，我要么直接用英文写，要么用翻译工具翻译我的文字再复制出来。

不过最近回来后，我发现必须注册一个新账号。如果我对朝鲜战争飞行系列没有兴趣，我不会再参与这里的任何讨论了。注册后，我发现我的浏览器能轻松地将英语翻译成中文。我不必再用拙劣的英语阅读帖子，这对我来说非常方便。我还注意到许多回复是用非英语语言写成的。我只需将鼠标悬停在文本上，点击翻译按钮，就能立刻理解其全部含义。

这就是为什么我相信机器翻译比我破碎的英语更准确地传达我的想法，尤其是在那些充满我自己无法正确表达的技术术语的图形设置中。因此，我选择用中文发帖。我以为任何对我提问感兴趣的人都可以直接翻译一下就能理解我的观点——在当今数字时代，这已经非常容易了。

然而你却批评我在一个伪装成幽默、实际上充满侮辱的信息中使用中文。我本打算严厉回应，但我决定网络争吵毫无意义。我只是指出中文是联合国官方语言，所有翻译工具都能轻松转换我的帖子，不会给你带来真正的麻烦。讽刺的是，我不得不依赖独立的AI翻译器来识别你的语言并弄清楚你写了什么。即便如此，我还是把我的回复翻译成你的语言，想证明一件事：如今语言已经不再是沟通的障碍。

不过，你还是一直纠结于语言问题，完全忽视了我们关于VR技术的核心讨论，我认为这完全没有必要。

最后，正如你提到的，很多人用手机浏览论坛，我现在也在用手机。当我尝试阅读你的消息时，内置的自动翻译无法处理文本，迫使我把所有内容复制到专用的翻译应用中才能理解你的意思。

那有什么问题呢？如果你在意别人说了什么，就直接翻译他们的文字。如果不喜欢，为什么不直接跳过呢？

随着技术进步，无缝的跨语言交流是不可避免的。甚至埃隆·马斯克的X平台也内置了自动翻译功能。你为什么这么在意别人用母语发帖？

在这个论坛上，最重要的是大家能够相互沟通和分享经验。请给英语有限的玩家一个参与讨论的机会——这对你我都有益。

顺便说一句，你让我把中文放在其他专门的板块。你能告诉我中文区具体在哪里吗？你有没有查过你提到的这个子论坛里有没有中国分区？

 

I just saw your message and will give you a sincere reply. First of all, I never thought this trivial matter would trouble you so much that you stray far away from our original topic about VR settings.

I am not a new member here. I used to have an account ID on this forum and posted quite a few comments back then. At that time, I either wrote everything in English directly or translated my words via translation tools before copying them to post.

When I came back recently, however, I found I had to register a new account. If I weren’t fascinated by the Korean war flight series, I would not have participated in any discussions here again. After registering, I found my browser can instantly translate English into Chinese with great ease. I no longer need to struggle reading posts with my poor English, which has been a massive convenience for me. I also noticed many replies are written in languages other than English. All I need to do is hover my mouse over the text and hit the translate button to grasp their full meaning instantly.

That’s why I believe machine translation can convey my thoughts far more accurately than my broken English, especially when it comes to graphics settings loaded with technical jargon I could never properly phrase on my own. Therefore, I choose to post in Chinese. I assumed anyone curious about my questions could simply run a translation to understand my point — this is effortless in today’s digital age.

Yet you criticized my use of Chinese in a message masked as humour but actually full of insult. I originally planned to respond sharply, yet I decided online quarrels are meaningless. I merely pointed out that Chinese is an official UN language, and every translation tool can convert my posts effortlessly without bringing you any real trouble. Ironically, I had to rely on separate AI translators just to identify your language and figure out what you wrote. Even so, I translated my reply into your language to prove one thing: language is no longer a barrier to communication nowadays.

Still, you kept dwelling on this language issue and completely ignored our core discussion about VR technology, which I think is utterly unnecessary.

Lastly, as you mentioned, many people browse forums on mobile phones, and I am also using my phone right now. When I tried reading your messages, the built-in auto-translate failed to process the text, forcing me to copy everything into a dedicated translation app to understand you.

So what’s the problem with that? If you care about what someone says, just translate their text. If you don’t, why not simply skip over it?

Seamless cross-linguistic communication is inevitable with technological advancement. Even Elon Musk’s X platform has built-in automatic translation. Why do you care so much about others posting in their native tongue?

What matters most on this forum is for everyone to communicate and share experiences with each other. Please give players with limited English a chance to join the discussions — it benefits both you and me.

By the way, you told me to post Chinese in other dedicated sections. Could you tell me exactly where the Chinese section is? Have you checked whether there is a Chinese zone within this subforum you referenced?

[YoYo]

2 hours ago, =ILS=_Abu_27 said:

I just saw your message ....

I don't know if you were writing to me, as the quote refers to you, but I suspect something might have gotten mixed up due to the thread being moved.

First of all, thank you for your post. I understand the reasoning behind this, and I also fully understand that today's technology enables many things, and I use it to this extent myself. After all, we're all fans of technology, and I think we're good at it, since we use VR.

The rule is, however, that I have an English-speaking section of the forum and a Russian-speaking section, and generally, these two languages are welcome here, and as you can see, they sometimes intertwine. However, following the logic you mentioned, anyone could write here in the own language because "we have the tools." This would create clutter and make it much more difficult to find the right information (the search function would be pointless, and everyone would mostly be arguing with themselves, with no response, because some things are translated, others aren't and people don't understand what's going on).

On the other hand, since we have sections and topics in English, it's safe to assume that it's the main language of this topic (note that the old forum even had a rule about this in the rules). Although my English is certainly not the best, I can read quite well; sometimes I have to look up a word, sometimes I have to verify an entire sentence. I think it's generally not a problem these days to translate sentences into my own language, then write them in my own language, and then paste the text in English, since the entire discussion is in that language. This also shows respect for other users, so that they understand what I'm trying to convey, rather than me posting something in my own language and letting them translate it. That's a bit unfair, in my opinion.

Please know that I didn't mean to offend you, and if you took it that way, I apologize. However, please understand the other side as well.

Have a great time in VR!

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, =ILS=_Abu_27 said:

By the way, you told me to post Chinese in other dedicated sections. Could you tell me exactly where the Chinese section is? Have you checked whether there is a Chinese zone within this subforum you referenced?

We've created a new subsection for those who wish to carry out conversations exclusively in Chinese: https://forum.il2-series.com/forum/69-中文讨论/

[=ILS=_Abu_27]

26 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

我们为那些希望只用中文进行对话的人创建了一个新子板块：https://forum.il2-series.com/forum/69-中文讨论/

ok thx !

[Avimimus]

2 hours ago, =ILS=_Abu_27 said:

ok thx !

But please feel free to keep engaging on the rest of the forums! Everyone should feel very welcome of course!

[AEthelraedUnraed]

17 hours ago, =ILS=_Abu_27 said:

I just saw your message and will give you a sincere reply. First of all, I never thought this trivial matter would trouble you so much that you stray far away from our original topic about VR settings.

I am not a new member here. I used to have an account ID on this forum and posted quite a few comments back then. At that time, I either wrote everything in English directly or translated my words via translation tools before copying them to post.

When I came back recently, however, I found I had to register a new account. If I weren’t fascinated by the Korean war flight series, I would not have participated in any discussions here again. After registering, I found my browser can instantly translate English into Chinese with great ease. I no longer need to struggle reading posts with my poor English, which has been a massive convenience for me. I also noticed many replies are written in languages other than English. All I need to do is hover my mouse over the text and hit the translate button to grasp their full meaning instantly.

That’s why I believe machine translation can convey my thoughts far more accurately than my broken English, especially when it comes to graphics settings loaded with technical jargon I could never properly phrase on my own. Therefore, I choose to post in Chinese. I assumed anyone curious about my questions could simply run a translation to understand my point — this is effortless in today’s digital age.

Yet you criticized my use of Chinese in a message masked as humour but actually full of insult. I originally planned to respond sharply, yet I decided online quarrels are meaningless. I merely pointed out that Chinese is an official UN language, and every translation tool can convert my posts effortlessly without bringing you any real trouble. Ironically, I had to rely on separate AI translators just to identify your language and figure out what you wrote. Even so, I translated my reply into your language to prove one thing: language is no longer a barrier to communication nowadays.

Still, you kept dwelling on this language issue and completely ignored our core discussion about VR technology, which I think is utterly unnecessary.

Lastly, as you mentioned, many people browse forums on mobile phones, and I am also using my phone right now. When I tried reading your messages, the built-in auto-translate failed to process the text, forcing me to copy everything into a dedicated translation app to understand you.

So what’s the problem with that? If you care about what someone says, just translate their text. If you don’t, why not simply skip over it?

Seamless cross-linguistic communication is inevitable with technological advancement. Even Elon Musk’s X platform has built-in automatic translation. Why do you care so much about others posting in their native tongue?

What matters most on this forum is for everyone to communicate and share experiences with each other. Please give players with limited English a chance to join the discussions — it benefits both you and me.

By the way, you told me to post Chinese in other dedicated sections. Could you tell me exactly where the Chinese section is? Have you checked whether there is a Chinese zone within this subforum you referenced?

I thought I'd give you my perspective. 

I respect the fact that not everyone speaks English. It's not my first language either. It has taken me more than 2 decades of actively and passively engaging with the language, to reach my current level. Which is still far from perfect.

Being someone who develops/researches AI as my main job, I don't have many problems with AI itself except for its heavy power usage. However I have a deep mistrust of AI companies. They use your data for the Gods may know what, of which advertising goals are the least of my worries. Furthermore, it's common knowledge that everything you send to these chatbots has the potential to be read by either the US government (ChatGPT, CoPilot, Gemini) or the Chinese one (DeepSeek) and I trust those and their motives even less than Google's. At least the latter is motivated by profits and is unlikely to engage in hacking, espionage, propaganda activities and sabotage, which cannot be said about those governments.

I'm not above sending the occasional snippet to a chatbot for translation, but I won't blanket-translate entire web pages, giving those companies full access to my browsing activities and including information like my username. If I forget to turn it off, it potentially gains access to extremely sensitive information like company emails, which I occasionally check on my home PC.

I'm aware Firefox has a translation mode that runs offline, but have you ever tried it? With me, it once turned a recipe into a sex story (something with moistening the hard sausage with her juices, where it was actually pork chops and mustard).

So in short, I won't translate anything. It isn't fair and I don't like it any more than the next person, but English happens to be the world's lingua Franca, so I'll write my messages in English so that as many people as possible can understand these without requiring them to use the same software I refuse to. That's what I hope other people will do as well, or if their English isn't good enough, put the onus of translation on oneself.

I can read a number of languages (Dutch, English, German, French, a little Danish); everything else I ignore. On the new forum, you're allowed to post in any language you like, but if you post in another language than English you cannot and should not expect other people to be able to read and reply to your messages.

 

(BTW I actually feel that 1CGS should translate all messages; they came up with this unholy policy of allowing any and all languages. IMO it is their responsibility to keep the forum readable instead of shifting the burden unto their customers).

[Xtremist]

On 6/29/2026 at 3:31 PM, =ILS=_Abu_27 said:

I just saw your message and will give you a sincere reply. First of all, I never thought this trivial matter would trouble you so much that you stray far away from our original topic about VR settings.

I am not a new member here. I used to have an account ID on this forum and posted quite a few comments back then. At that time, I either wrote everything in English directly or translated my words via translation tools before copying them to post.

When I came back recently, however, I found I had to register a new account. If I weren’t fascinated by the Korean war flight series, I would not have participated in any discussions here again. After registering, I found my browser can instantly translate English into Chinese with great ease. I no longer need to struggle reading posts with my poor English, which has been a massive convenience for me. I also noticed many replies are written in languages other than English. All I need to do is hover my mouse over the text and hit the translate button to grasp their full meaning instantly.

That’s why I believe machine translation can convey my thoughts far more accurately than my broken English, especially when it comes to graphics settings loaded with technical jargon I could never properly phrase on my own. Therefore, I choose to post in Chinese. I assumed anyone curious about my questions could simply run a translation to understand my point — this is effortless in today’s digital age.

Yet you criticized my use of Chinese in a message masked as humour but actually full of insult. I originally planned to respond sharply, yet I decided online quarrels are meaningless. I merely pointed out that Chinese is an official UN language, and every translation tool can convert my posts effortlessly without bringing you any real trouble. Ironically, I had to rely on separate AI translators just to identify your language and figure out what you wrote. Even so, I translated my reply into your language to prove one thing: language is no longer a barrier to communication nowadays.

Still, you kept dwelling on this language issue and completely ignored our core discussion about VR technology, which I think is utterly unnecessary.

Lastly, as you mentioned, many people browse forums on mobile phones, and I am also using my phone right now. When I tried reading your messages, the built-in auto-translate failed to process the text, forcing me to copy everything into a dedicated translation app to understand you.

So what’s the problem with that? If you care about what someone says, just translate their text. If you don’t, why not simply skip over it?

Seamless cross-linguistic communication is inevitable with technological advancement. Even Elon Musk’s X platform has built-in automatic translation. Why do you care so much about others posting in their native tongue?

What matters most on this forum is for everyone to communicate and share experiences with each other. Please give players with limited English a chance to join the discussions — it benefits both you and me.

By the way, you told me to post Chinese in other dedicated sections. Could you tell me exactly where the Chinese section is? Have you checked whether there is a Chinese zone within this subforum you referenced?

If i can take the effort to write my messages in the most widely accepted and universally used language, i think everybody else can too... 

There are separate language sections for a reason, even the creators of this game made a separate forum section for their language instead of mixing it with the main threads, and it is an unrealistic expectation to have the main channel using multiple languages. I don't have automatic translation option in my browser, and i don't want one, for the reasons mentioned above by others. 

"Please give players with limited English a chance to join the discussions — it benefits both you and me." 

You can use the automatic translator to write the comments in english, instead of relying on others to use it, so the thread will remain useful for those who can't or don't want to use it. 

Or, you can use the chinese section if this is a problem for you. 

I don't write my messages in my native language, mainly because since my english is advanced, i see how falsely can translators work, and i expect it is the same with other languages, distorting the message and tone of the comments. 

[Panzerkatze]

 

I need subtitles for this...