Trouble with wheel brakes; keybinds or something else?

[Mr_Tayto]

First of all I want to say how blown away I am with this game. I played the very first IL-2 and then drifted away from flight sims for over a decade, before getting back into them. DCS leaves me cold, for some reason. I just can't get into it, but this I absolutely love. Had my first flights this afternoon and it was love at first sight, no issues with frames, everything is beautiful and the preset keymaps for peripherals are mostly perfect.

 

However, my wheel brakes do not seem to work. I have bound and rebound them, used different settings within the binds and nothing. This is most frustrating when attempting the exam first mission. I power up on the runway and start the roll, and the aircraft swings to the left every time. Obviously the rudder doesn't impact this until a reasonable high ground speed, so I keep departing the runway. I tried on a free flight too, same issue (almost) but this time veered to the right and I had just enough runway for the rudder to become live and steer me back to centreline for takeoff.

 

Does anyone have any advice? I am using Saitek/Logi pro flight pedals, toes brake input for wheel brakes. So far this is the only insurmountable problem I've had with the preset controls.

EDIT: Just remembered, my trim hat doesn't seem to do anything either, despite being bound (X56 rhino)

Edited June 28 by Mr_Tayto

[Mr_Tayto]

Admin you can lock this - I see it's a me problem and it's do do with how Soviet aircraft engage NWS.

 

Still, a tooltip or even a short tutorial would be welcome 🙂

[Panthercules]

Not sure how you solved your problem, but I'm having what seems to be the same issue.  The key map settings screen recognizes my rudder pedals' proper axis and appears to assign it to the wheel brakes (left and right), but in the game they don't work, and on the screen you get when you click on the response curve picture, nothing happens when I press the rudder brakes.  In fact, nothing on that screen works or changes at all.  What is going wrong and how do you get the brakes to work?

[Art-J]

Just for the record, not all airplanes feature toe brakes (Russian ones mostly don't), and that's what previous poster stumbled upon.  Make sure you test in the ones that do have them. Have you tried P-51D for example?

[Panthercules]

Yeah - I figured out that the Mig-15 uses the other keybind for wheel brakes common/differential, which I now have mapped to the little throttle paddle on my MS FFB2 stick.  That seems to work - though I haven't really mastered the process, I have been able to take off successfully a few times to test the B-29 intercept mission with it.  My problem has been with the F-84E. The brake paddle (for the Mig) appears to work fine on the response curves screen, as do the rudder pedals on the response curve screen for the yaw command assignment.  And, as I noted, the game sees my rudder pedal brake axes just fine and assigns them to the left and right wheel brake commands, I simply get no response/activity at all on the response curve screens for those wheel brake commands, and they do not work in game with the F-84E.  Windows, on the other hand, shows those rudder pedal wheel brake axes working just fine in its device calibration screen.  

The game sees the action of pressing the rudder's brake pedals when searching for commands (as noted below), but for some reason they just don't work on the response curve screens or in the game.

Edited September 13 by Panthercules

[ATAG_Ezzie]

Hi Panthercules,

I had pretty much the same issue with the f-84 brakes and ended up using the differential rudder braking system rather than the toe brakes.

Ezzie

[FuriousMeow]

I have Saitek Pro Combat pedals that are working fine with all planes that have toe brakes. Only using a global profile though. 

Did you go into the profile manager and make sure to assign the profile to the plane?

Not seeing them active in the curve preview is odd though. 

Actually, just noticed your response curve has the pedal reading right in the middle when it should be fully to the left/less... so something going on with calibration it seems, or maybe a mod. Have you confirmed the same behavior with mods off?

Edited September 13 by FuriousMeow

[Panthercules]

Yeah - I went in early on and assigned my VR profile to every aircraft type.  I haven't tested with mods off yet - I'm not actually running with any mods at this point but I'll take a look at with mods off just in case.  I noted someone else above was also having trouble with the F-84E - guess I should check and confirm whether that plane uses the other style of brakes for some reason.  I guess I'll try one of the other US planes, maybe the F-51, and see if they happen to work on that plane, although the fact that I get no motion/reaction on the response curve screen still confuses me.  I also noted that the response curve screen shows it in the middle instead of fully left, but I don;t know what to make of that since everything on the screen is just stuck - can't alter the curve or induce any sort of movement/reaction by clicking anywhere on the screen or pressing the rudder pedal at all.

 

[EDIT] OK - that was weird.  I looked again at the first picture you posted above, and saw that it referenced a Common Pitch Curve (General).  I wasn't sure what that meant, as I haven't found a way to create a different set of pitch curves to match my different VR-related set of bindings.  But I went back and checked, and found that while I had previously assigned my rudder pedal brakes to the wheel brake commands in my VR profile I had not assigned them in the general/default profile.  Just for grins, I tried making those assignments in the general profile, and lo and behold when I checked the response curve screen from there it showed the appropriate movement/reaction when I pressed my rudder pedals.  So I switched over to my VR-related profile and tried there and, for the first time, it also showed the proper movement/reaction on that response curve screen as well.  Haven't had a chance to test it in game yet, but it looks like it might have fixed itself somehow.

Edited September 14 by Panthercules

[FuriousMeow]

The toe brakes work for me with the F84, like the F51, F80 and F86. 

That you can't adjust the deadband or the dead zones on that screen definitely something is up. Those 3 at least are moveable/adjustable. So either something isn't right with mods on, or maybe a file check, if using Steam, or reinstall is in order. I can't think of anything else that would cause that behavior.