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Unable to Map the Water Radiator Shutter Axis(YAK-3)


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VIII_Ball
Posted

I’m unable to Map the Water Radiator Shutter Axis(Open/Close) on the YAK-3.
The YAK's 1,7,9 are able to do this without issue.
TheYAK-3’s Water radiator control mode:Auto/Manual switch Maps correctly 
and works, but only the default keyboard keys RCtl + Minus/Equals work and
actuate the Cockpit switches.

I’ve attempted to Map both a Switch and Axis on my Throttle and Joystick,
but with no success. The only difference between the YAK-3 and the
other YAK’s Water Radiator Shutter Axis control is Switches rather than
a Wheel to control the shutter.

This appears to be a bug, but if not, any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks, VIII_Ball.
 

LuftManu
Posted

Hi! Yak-3 water rad is automatic. They improved it from the manually controlled earlier ones 🙂

 

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LukeFF
Posted

Just to add, you can still control the radiator manually, but you have to use the keybinds to toggle between automatic and manual control, and use the manual water radiator controls, not the axis commands (same ones used on the Bf 109 F, G, K).

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VIII_Ball
Posted

That was my issue, the other YAK's use Water radiator shutters control.

The YAK-3 uses Water radiator controls.

The simple details can drive you crazy.

Thank you for your help LukeFF.

I appreciate it.

Gutholz
Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Just to add, you can still control the radiator manually, but you have to use the keybinds to toggle between automatic and manual control, and use the manual water radiator controls, not the axis commands (same ones used on the Bf 109 F, G, K).

Follow-up question:

In the 109 cockpit that is a turnable control with three positions: open / auto / closed

Is it possible to map it to this device:

THQWWII_SEM-V_800_4.jpg

To the white  "MODE" turnable switch at the top left? (One of the 4 positions would be unused of course) Each position is a button that is hold down when the selector is turned to its number.

1 = open 2= auto 3 = close

The problem seems to be, that there is only an option to bind the TOGGLE between automatic and manuell. But no option to SET automatic or manuell.

For example for the landing gear it is possible to use the lever because there is a TOGGLE-option (operation by one key, by default "g" on keyboard) but also the option to RAISE or LOWER with different buttons. Similar seems to be missing for the radior.

Edited by Gutholz
AEthelraedUnraed
Posted
5 hours ago, Gutholz said:

Follow-up question:

In the 109 cockpit that is a turnable control with three positions: open / auto / closed

Is it possible to map it to this device:

THQWWII_SEM-V_800_4.jpg

To the white  "MODE" turnable switch at the top left? (One of the 4 positions would be unused of course) Each position is a button that is hold down when the selector is turned to its number.

1 = open 2= auto 3 = close

The problem seems to be, that there is only an option to bind the TOGGLE between automatic and manuell. But no option to SET automatic or manuell.

For example for the landing gear it is possible to use the lever because there is a TOGGLE-option (operation by one key, by default "g" on keyboard) but also the option to RAISE or LOWER with different buttons. Similar seems to be missing for the radior.

This is not possible with just IL2, but using 3rd party software (e.g. Joystick Gremlin), you could map the switch to a button press, which you can then map in IL2.

Posted

I tried but did not manage even with extra software. How excactely would I do that?

The turnable mode-switch is 3 button, not an axis. (actually 4 buttons but one position unused) They work as buttons in IL2.

The problem is, when going from pos-1 to pos-3 then pos-2 also gets pressed during rotating the switch.

In IL2 one button can have multiple functions mapped to, so something like this would be possible:

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button1: open, automatic-off

button2: automatic-on

button 3: closed, automatic-off

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Except of course, there is no "autmatic-off" or "automatic-on" function. Only a toggle between them those two. 😕

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Posted

Yes, that sort of thing isn't possible with the available commands. Personally, I have one button mapped to toggle the automatic function on and off, and a momentary toggle switch for the open and closed commands.

AEthelraedUnraed
Posted
1 hour ago, Gutholz said:

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button1: open, automatic-off

button2: automatic-on

button 3: closed, automatic-off

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Except of course, there is no "autmatic-off" or "automatic-on" function. Only a toggle between them those two. 😕

That doesn't matter, does it? You have 3 states, and every possible state transition changes the automatic setting. You can have the following:

Button 1: open, toggle automatic

Button 2: toggle automatic

Button 3: close, toggle automatic

This requires you to define your initial conditions, i.e. you always need to start IL2 with the switch in a certain position. But other than that it should work fine.

Posted

Should work with Joystick Gremlin macros in my opinion. This is quite a cool tool if you invest some time in completely understanding how it works: not only button remapping but also more complex actions by macros.

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