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I noticed that this kept coming up in various threads, so I thought 'why not make a thread for it?'

 

Announced aircraft

These aircraft have all been officially announced, but we don't know which ones will be in the base module package, which ones will be in a DLC, or which ones will be individually purchasable as 'Collector Planes'.

 

Flyable jet aircraft:

Mig-15Bis (Early/Late variants with changes to the engine, 23mm cannon, and airbrakes)

F-86A-5 late (J47-GE-13; AN/APG-30 modification, so comparable to 'E' - except for high speed control)

F-80C-10

F-84E (Collector Plane / Premium)

 

Flyable piston-engined aircraft:

F-51D-25 (M2 equipped variant - evidence of M3 equipped F-51D hasn't been found yet).

Yak-9P (ShVAK and UB equipped variant)

Il-10 (VYa-23 and UBT equipped variant)

La-11 (Collector Plane / Premium)

 

2026 DLC:

Possibly F9F-2

Possibly F-4U-4 (Late 20mm equipped variant)

Mystery aircraft 1

Mystery aircraft 2

Mystery aircraft 3

 

AI aircraft:

B-29 (AI)

Tu-2S (AI)

C-47B (AI)

Li-2T (AI)

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Aircraft Losses gives some idea of the combat significance of various types:

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Using the Sewell as a reference, and simplifying it a bit, we get the following losses:

F-4U 555
F-51 477
F-80 298
F-86 275
F-84 234
AD-2 211
F9F 163
B-26 154
B-29 107
AT-6D 102
Seafury 62
Meteor 42
Firefly 38

 

vs.

 

MiG-15 345
MiG15bis 83
Yak-9P 30
Il-10 11
Tu-2 9
La-9 8
Po-2 7
La-11 6
Yak-18 3
A-20G 1

 

Losses roughly correlate with the amount of combat usage an airplane sees, which vaguely correlates with its importance. So it is a good place to start when thinking about what a representative planeset would look like.

 

 

Notes:

- The B-26 is a redesignated A-26 Invader

- Each type includes subvariants (Except the Mig-15 and Mig 15 Bis which are listed separately. However, it may well be the case that the other Mig-15s were actually Bis variants).

Some aircraft may have been important for reasons other than the numbers lost, especially early in the war where some types may have made up a larger percentage of losses (the above lists go for the entire length of the war so they don't represent the most important types in each period).

I'd personally enjoy an F-82G converted for daylight use... even though only 15 were shot down, they did play a bigger role at the start of the war (e.g. first offensive air mission, first victory by an American aircraft), and they had their radars removed once they switched to ground-attack duties.

 

Some of the lesser used types:

L-4 36
F7F 28
TBM-3 18
OY-1 16
F2H 15
PBM-5 15
F-82G 15
F-94B 14
C-47A 13
OE-1 9

 

Helicopters:

H-5F 26
H-5D 17
H-13A 13
H-19A 11

 

From this list we can see that the module is surprisingly complete - the remaining types with significant losses are as follows:

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Fighters:
Seafury      62
Meteor       42   (Note: Shifted into the attack role).
F2H            15

Attack aircraft:
B-26        154   (Note: Redesignated A-26 Invader).
Skyraider 211
Firefly       38
Po-2           7

Night fighters and attack aircraft:
F7F          28   (Note: also used as a night bomber and attack aircraft).
F-82G      15   (Note: also used as a day fighter and attack aircraft).
F-94B      14   (Note: Only one of the F-94 losses was directly tied to enemy action).

Spotting:
AT-6D    102
L-4          36
OY-1        16
OE-1         9
Po-2         7

Helicopters:
H-5         42
H-13A      13
H-19A      11

Naval patrol:
Firefly     38
TBM-3     18
PBM-5     15

 

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There is potential room for further expansion in terms of variants.

Jet Variants

F-86:

- F-86E: Similar to the late A-5, but with an all moving powered horizontal stabiliser allowing control at higher speeds in dives.

- F-86F-40: Similar to the F-86E but with the new 6-3 wing, improving high speed performance at the cost of worse low speed handling. Some improvements to climb rate and range.

- F-86F-2 "Gunval" (1953 experimental F-86E and F-86F conversions with 20mm cannon tested in modest numbers).

Mig-15:

- Mig-15: Slightly different cannon arrangement, less powerful engine leading to 20km/h speed reduction and lower climb rate, reduced roll performance due to having no hydraulic boost for the ailerons. These aircraft mainly appeared towards the end of the war when Chinese units were committed.

F-84:

- F-84D: 30 cm shorter with a cramped cockpit. Less wing structural strength. Only wingtip tanks (no underwing tanks). No radar gunsight. No JATO.

- F-84G: Deployed in 1952. Increased engine power 24.9 kN (fomerrly 22.25 kN), reduced bomb-load (1815 kg), frame canopy. Optimised for longer ranged (and nuclear) strike - inflight refuelling capability, autopilot, LABS for toss-bombing.

F9F:

- F9F-5: Slightly lengthened, with slightly more engine power. 85km/h faster than the F9F-22 (this moves it from being slightly slower than contemporary jets to slightly faster, although climb rate remains poor). Increased bomb load.

 

Piston Variants

Lavochkin:

- La-9: 15 km/h faster than the La-11, slightly lower wing loading and much better climb rate making than the La-11 (making it more competitive with other piston engined fighters in this regard), and an additional 20mm cannon.

F4U:

- AU-1: Used from 1952. Engine optimised for low altitude. However, it is still 90 km/h slower and has half the ceiling (6 km compared to 12 km) and half the range. This loss in performance allowed turning the Corsair into a Sturmovik with extensive armouring, twice the bomb load and additional hardpoints (bringing the total to 10).

Mustang:

- F-82G: A twin engine fighter made from combining the parts of two Mustangs. This increased speed by 144 km/h (making it the fastest piston engine aircraft in Korea), and doubling the range. The ceiling and power-to-weight ratio became slightly lower than the F-51D, and the wing-loading increased, but the climb rate was higher. The bomb load also doubled. The design carried an SCR-720 radar (an improved WWII design with a very simple display and operation), that was sometimes removed in Korea when engaging in ground-attack. Withdrawn early in the war.

Skyraider:

- AD-1/AD-2: Less engine power and lower weight. It has only 2x20mm cannons and half the bombload of the AD-4. But the AD-2 can fly 74 km/h faster, climb 20% faster (competitive with all piston engine fighter other than the F4U-4 and Yak-9P), fly 3000 metres higher, and achieve a longer range.

- AD-4: Much higher weight and more engine power. A higher power to weight ratio. Twice the armament, but 74km/h slower, poor climb rate and ceiling, and reduced range.

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My current guesses for the DLC include an F9F-2 (previously announced as in development), F4U-4 (previously announced as in development), and I'm guessing the Skyraider (likely the AD-4) and the Sea Fury - but that would still leave one unannounced aircraft. Time to get back to the age old game of speculation I guess!

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Sound analysis Avivimus. My Guess would be Corsair, Panther, F-86E .. then Skyraider and Mig 15 OG. Though i´d prefer the B-26 to give something to the bomber boys. Edit instead of the mig 15 OG, SeaFury.. remembered seeing a British Pilot model.. Could be a meteor as well

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I hope Skyraider is one of them, just to keep my P-47 fetish alive😁

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I wish Colonel, but since they have already said no F-82, I suspect no F7F either.  :classic_sad:

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Phanter and Corsair are probably down the line! Maybe those 5 secret aicraft?

But about the other 3...

I think the team mentioned something about other countries too! so a Seafury probably will be the next one!
Something that I would love is the Skyraider and maybe... the A-26? That would give us some twin engine experience!

@BlitzPig_ELIf the team wants to make "collectors", I think both planes you mentioned are great candidates.

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Rescue helicopters, like in "The Bridges of Toko-Ri" (Sikorsky H-5... Sikorsky H-19...).

So please, devs, develop realistic chopper physics 😁

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Tu-2 needs to be made flyable.... I'm tired of waiting for it..... 🤪

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Can someone identify the carrier in the background? Maybe it could be a clue which navy aircraft we are getting.

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Posted
45 minutes ago, MiGCap said:

Essex class

At least in theory, this would allow adding the F2H Banshee to the game.

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54 minutes ago, Juri_JS said:

At least in theory, this would allow adding the F2H Banshee to the game.

I was actually thinking that it might be the fifth DLC plane. Another possibility is the Seafire Fr.47, which by Korea had contra-rotating propellers, and had fixed the issues with elevator responsiveness that other late Spitfires had... but it only served one tour at the start of the war, so it would seem unlikely in spite of how popular it would be.

I think a Firefly to go with the Sea Fury (even a static model of a Firefly) would be the higher priority - carrier decks won't look right without both aircraft - but I have this feeling that the developers won't prioritise the Firefly. The Avenger is even less likely - as they weren't used for ground-attacks (whereas Fireflys were routinely used for ground attack sorties). Similarly the carrier based night fighters would seem unlikely.

Another option would be two variants (i.e. an F9F-4 as well as the F9F-2; or AD-2 to go with the AD-4; or the AU-1 to go with the F4U)! All of these would fit with the Carrier theme, but people might not consider them to be an entirely different aircraft.

 

I've been assuming we'll get an F-86E or F-86F as a Collector Plane (I'm not sure if it fits with the Carrier theme). If I could pick any additional aircraft it would be:

- The B-26 Invader (redesignated A-26)... as it would give us a second U.N. bomber, a night target that is a bit easier to intercept than the B-29 for the La-11, it could be made flyable with just a single cockpit position, and it had a heavy ground attack armament.

- The SCR-720 (a really simple radar that would be easy to implement - guidance was by lightbulb!), which would allow the the F-82G twin-mustang and/or the F7F... these were the fastest piston engine fighters in the theatre. They were also used extensively for ground attack during some parts of the war.

- I have a feeling that a U-2VS/Po-2 would be a very interesting contrast to flying the fast jets.

- An RAAF Meteor F.8 would also make for an interesting experience.

 

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3 hours ago, Juri_JS said:

Can someone identify the carrier in the background? Maybe it could be a clue which navy aircraft we are getting.

DD47_13_ENG.png.850c2a38230057d0b004da90d4890309.png

 

So...this is a way which lead us to the PTO😆

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25 minutes ago, xshinel said:

So...this is a way which lead us to the PTO😆

This is the way.

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26 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

This is the way.

Let's leave the Mandalorians out of this... 🤣

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Imagine how difficult landing an F9F, or any early naval jet, will be on an Essex class with their poor low speed acceleration.  "Wave offs" are going to be a hair raising proposition.

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1 minute ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Imagine how difficult landing an F9F, or any early naval jet, will be on an Essex class with their poor low speed acceleration.  "Wave offs" are going to be a hair raising proposition.

Yes, you've got to come in hot if you get waved off...However, didn't they rely on the net to stop jets going overboard?

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27 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Imagine how difficult landing an F9F, or any early naval jet, will be on an Essex class with their poor low speed acceleration.  "Wave offs" are going to be a hair raising proposition.

Yeah, now that you mention it - this is potentially going to be more exciting than WWII era or modern Carrier Ops...

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