Potential re-use of Great Battles maps for Flying Circus

[Enceladus828]

A bit OT here but would it be possible to create any WW1 Romanian campaign scenarios between the Central Powers and the Romanians and Russians or Russian Civil War scenarios on the Odessa map?

[Avimimus]

2 hours ago, Enceladus828 said:

A bit OT here but would it be possible to create any WW1 Romanian campaign scenarios between the Central Powers and the Romanians and Russians or Russian Civil War scenarios on the Odessa map?

Interesting idea!

[kraut1]

3 hours ago, Enceladus828 said:

A bit OT here but would it be possible to create any WW1 Romanian campaign scenarios between the Central Powers and the Romanians and Russians or Russian Civil War scenarios on the Odessa map?

 

30 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

Interesting idea!

I think from November 16 to Spring or Summer 17 after the Romanian retreat there was something like a static front (I suppose).
After this in summer 17 a successfull Romanian offensive.

Odessa Map yellow marked.
I think the area  would be sufficient for thew slow WW1 planes, missing airfields are no problem, WW1 planes can take off / land everywhere and it is easy to make a small mod with more smooth surfaces.
And I have already released a mod to extend the Odessa map 20km in all directions: https://forum.il2-series.com/topic/915-odessa-map-limit-extension/

Question: which planes with which paintings were used by Romania?
Which Ground Troops (in first line artillery) to be used for Romania?

 

 

Edited December 27, 2025 by kraut1

[Enceladus828]

1 hour ago, kraut1 said:

Question: which planes with which paintings were used by Romania?
Which Ground Troops (in first line artillery) to be used for Romania?

I’m not familiar with the ground troops in the Romanian front but as for planes which are in the game.

Romanian:

Nieuport 11

Nieuport 17

Sopwith Strutter 1 1/2

Drachen and Caquot balloons 

Russian:

SPAD VII

Nieuports

Sopwith Strutter 1 1/2

Central Powers:

Albatross D.III

Zeppelins

Probably others including some which can be placeholders

[AndreiTomescu]

I have several books that can answer questions, but i need more specific questions.

Also to create a ww1 front on this map i find very appealing.

Interesting facts: most of the Romanian pilots were actually French, the romanians from the aircrafts were observers /gunners.

There were, of course some romanian born pilots, but not the majority.

The main fighter was the Bebé (nieuport 11) and N 17.

[kraut1]

I think for a minimum solution we need at least a Romanian Skin for the Nieuport 17 and the Sopwith Strutter 1 1/2. Russian Skins would great too, of course.
-For EMG for mission creation it would be required that I copy the WW2 Odessa template for WW1.
-minimum 4 airfields to be created
-ground targets to be defined in the template.
-minimum 1 historical front line to be created
-a WW1 version of the generic template for definition of ground troops

[MajorMagee]

I've been playing with the idea of making an infantry squad in Light Blue uniforms to represent the French in WW1 for use in FC. Some of the Romanians also wore a light blue field uniform so it could work for this project as well. I'm not sure it's worth the effort. What do you think?

 

[E69_julian57]

Hello
I can create the skins; in fact, I am looking at information  about the brands and badges.

Edited December 28, 2025 by E69_julian57

[kraut1]

17 hours ago, MajorMagee said:

I've been playing with the idea of making an infantry squad in Light Blue uniforms to represent the French in WW1 for use in FC. Some of the Romanians also wore a light blue field uniform so it could work for this project as well. I'm not sure it's worth the effort. What do you think?

 

Thanks for your offer!
At first I have to admit that I am not an expert in respect of Romanian WW1 ground troops.
But of course blue uniforms at least for the French Troops are absolutely required.

But for Romania please lets wait for the response by experts for this topic.
@AndreiTomescu

From my side the biggest issue in respect of alternative allied WW1 Romanian / Russian / French ground units is the:

British Brodie Helmet

This helmet is worn by all IL-2 WW1 allied artillery, AAA, machinegun crews and by all drivers and it indicates the soldier clearly as a British, Commonwealth or US one.

Do you know a way to eliminate this helmet for an alternative nation mod?
Is it possible to use another type of available soldier for artillery, AAA, machinegun crews and drivers?
Or is it maybe possible to eliminate the "outer ring of the helmet" by skin modification? But maybe this will look very ugly?

The russian officer wears a cap instead of a helmet and from my point of view he would be currently the best alternative WW1 allied weapon crew / driver.

The russian heavy DSHK MG looks a bit similar as the WW1 maxim and could maybe be used for allied WW1 purpose

 

@Stonehouse@Off_Winters@MajorMagee

 

 

Note: Maybe we should wait for the final release of Odessa and Leningrad, maybe there are some new "Romanian" or "Finnish" gun crews or drivers?

 

 

Edited December 29, 2025 by kraut1

[MajorMagee]

We have a limited ability to hide parts of the underlying 3D model by changes to the texture's alpha layer. In particular I've used it to remove parts on some of the tank models.

Side Guards Removed From Tiger

Side Skirts Removed From Captured Panzer IV

[AndreiTomescu]

Here are some pics with the main aircraft the Romanian Air Force used in WW1, with the initial use date and number of aircrafts available. To be noticed the fact that the painting denoting the nationality was very modest. Few aircraft had a name on them, for ex the Nieuport 11 BB "Craiul" belonging to a ro ace, Nicolae Capsa, i think. (but i'm not sure).

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jsdTEeacNENKkD2mHBW5AmhgLKDStJ3r/view?usp=sharing

[kraut1]

21 hours ago, MajorMagee said:

I've been playing with the idea of making an infantry squad in Light Blue uniforms to represent the French in WW1 for use in FC. Some of the Romanians also wore a light blue field uniform so it could work for this project as well. I'm not sure it's worth the effort. What do you think?

 

Yes, blue and brown I think:
 

Spoiler

 

37 minutes ago, AndreiTomescu said:

Here are some pics with the main aircraft the Romanian Air Force used in WW1, with the initial use date and number of aircrafts available. To be noticed the fact that the painting denoting the nationality was very modest. Few aircraft had a name on them, for ex the Nieuport 11 BB "Craiul" belonging to a ro ace, Nicolae Capsa, i think. (but i'm not sure).

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jsdTEeacNENKkD2mHBW5AmhgLKDStJ3r/view?usp=sharing

For me this looks good. And I would suggest to use the Fe2b additionally as a "Farman" bomber.

[AndreiTomescu]

the pics with the romanian uniforms are very good. they had the equipment inspired by the french one, so..... what i have noticed just when i've searched for aircrafts is that they had not only french ones (prince Bibescu - an ro air pioneer, first school of pilots, etc-  was very influential with the government money, and he was good friend with Bleirot) but also   Hansa Brandenburg C1, starting with 1916 ! This type was build in Romania also after the war.

The F.E.2b could really be a good substitute for the Farman F 40. In rest, there were Nieuport 11, 17,  21, 23 and Sophit 1 1/2 strutter. The Spad 13 entered very late.

[AndreiTomescu]

so the southern part of our Odessa map is usable.

The last picture is an authentic one, showing a visit by Queen Mary to an airfield in Moldavian front. The machine on the left is a Farman 40, i think ??

[AndreiTomescu]

[PanzerAce]

On 12/29/2025 at 11:10 AM, kraut1 said:

Yes, blue and brown I think:

Can't you also use the WW1 game Tannenberg as a reference?

1914-1916

1917

[kraut1]

4 minutes ago, PanzerAce said:

Can't you also use the WW1 game Tannenberg as a reference?

1914-1916

1917

Hi @MajorMagee,

Yes, from my point of view we need blue uniforms! 
And from my understanding for the allied WW1 UK/US drivers, gun crews, machine gunners too, if possible.
Concerning the Brodie helmet:
do you think that it is possible to cut either only the sides by ca. 50 % or alternatively 50% othe the outer ring of the blue helmet with the alpha channel?

@AndreiTomescu

 

[E69_julian57]

Hello,
I made these skins.
Let me know what you think.

[MajorMagee]

I'm most of the way through creating the infantry detachments. One in blue for French/Romanian, and also one in brown for the alternative Romanian. It will also include new AI artillery/mg crews with blue uniforms for use as French or Romanian. I just have three textures left to finish. The helmet trim has been tested successfully, but it needs more refinement.

Edited December 30, 2025 by MajorMagee

[kraut1]

First Preliminary EMG Romania 1917 is working / still many things to do.

Edited December 30, 2025 by kraut1

[AndreiTomescu]

1 hour ago, E69_julian57 said:

Let me know what you think.

it's great, only...it's the other way around 😇😁

like this, with the red on the exterior, like the flag

the last 3 rondels are french, right?

we had many french pilots acting as combatants, squadron leaders and instructors the same time, but they flew with ro colors

[AndreiTomescu]

6 minutes ago, kraut1 said:

First Preliminary EMG Romania 1917 is working / still many things to do.

so excited! with this, i WILL start to fly ww1 . for the first time after Aces of the Dawn, like ....dunno, 30 yrs ago ? on a x486 machine, and that was state-of-the-art back then.

really - really grateful

if you need stories, combat reports, i'll start reading. truth to be told, my ww1 air history is quite rusty. 

damn, i'll start reading them anyhow! 

4 hours ago, kraut1 said:

do you think that it is possible to cut either only the sides by ca. 50 % or alternatively 50% othe the outer ring of the blue helmet with the alpha channel?

honestly, yes, they had less large helmets, but the colour is the main thing.

[E69_julian57]

@Andrei Tomescu

I saw it here, and the others are Russian.

https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ro^air.html#13

Edited December 30, 2025 by E69_julian57

[E69_julian57]

Edited December 30, 2025 by E69_julian57

[CzechTexan]

It's interesting that the Romanian roundels were different during WWI.