Odessa and Leningrad Module

[King_Arthur]

Hi,

I was wondering what Odessa and Leningrad aircraft are planned to be able to be played in the other campaigns 🙂

Thanks in advance

[sandmarken]

Wasnt the i153 used in almost all eastern front battles available? The early Yak-1 and LaGG-3 shoud be available for Moscow and probably Stalingrad. Im pretty sure there was late war night attack squadrons using the ju87 maybe we see them on the Bodenplatte map? 

[Kubert]

I am also interested which older aircrafts will be available in Odessa/Leningrad. I always wanted to fly white, bubble canopy Yak in winter.  I hope there will be an opportunity for Yak-1b or Yak-9 in January-March 1944 near Leningrad. Also late war FW-190 can show as pure fighter against Soviet Union. On eastern front is only as JABO in Kuban for now.

[LukeFF]

A good chunk of the aircraft in Kuban's career you'll also likely see in Odessa 1944. 

Fw 190s over Odessa were all in attack units, so there probably won't be many fighter missions for them. 

[Kubert]

Wasn't JG54 on the north equipped with FW-190s in 1944? 

🤔

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, Kubert said:

Wasn't JG54 on the north equipped with FW-190s in 1944? 

🤔

Yes

[Shinobimono]

12 часов назад, sandmarken сказал:

The early Yak-1 and LaGG-3 shoud be available for Moscow and probably Stalingrad.

For the most part of the 1942nd, I'm sure.

[sandmarken]

On 12/5/2025 at 10:44 PM, Kubert said:

I am also interested which older aircrafts will be available in Odessa/Leningrad.

For early Odessa, the Il-16 seems to have been the main aircraft for the Soviets. They also used the MiG-3 (but probably an earlier version than ours).

 

The Romanians used the IAR-80, and the Luftwaffe used the 109E7 in the Odessa area. Both the Romanians and the Luftwaffe used the He-111. For 1944 i think the Hs129 was used? 

Edited December 11 by sandmarken

[Kubert]

From current Soviet planes, for 1944, could be used Yak-1b, Yak-9, La-5F/FN, P-39, IL-2 mod43 and bombers. I am not sure if their current versions match new timeframe, but considering that the Kuban career ends early october 1943 and Leningrad should start January 1944, there are only three months between the two. So mentioned planes shouldn't be completely written off yet.

Edited December 6 by Kubert

[LukeFF]

8 hours ago, sandmarken said:

For 1944 i think the Hs129 was used? 

Yes, both SG 9 and Grupul 8. You'll see the difference in missions and armament between them too. 

[86Cheese]

Can we please get some short careers for Prokhorovka? Its such a shame that we have almost nothing for a map that so much activity in the air. There is such a great opportunity for a yak 3 campaign also... 

[sandmarken]

2 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Yes, both SG 9 and Grupul 8. You'll see the difference in missions and armament between them too. 

Very good! Its interesting that the Romanians got their hands  on yet another odd machine! I am looking forward to what romanian squadrons we can fly with in the new career! 

[King_Arthur]

9 minutes ago, sandmarken said:

I am looking forward to what romanian squadrons we can fly with in the new career! 

Yeah, another question of mine: When is the career roughly expected? Winter? Spring? Summer?

[kraut1]

2 hours ago, 86Cheese said:

Can we please get some short careers for Prokhorovka? Its such a shame that we have almost nothing for a map that so much activity in the air. There is such a great opportunity for a yak 3 campaign also... 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/87575-emg-campaign-operation-citadel-1943-ii-schg1-fw190-a5-v01/

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, sandmarken said:

Very good! Its interesting that the Romanians got their hands  on yet another odd machine! I am looking forward to what romanian squadrons we can fly with in the new career! 

Yes, it'll be at the Grupul level like with the other Romanian units in the game (just Grupul 8, the only formation from Romania to fly it). 

2 hours ago, King_Arthur said:

Yeah, another question of mine: When is the career roughly expected? Winter? Spring? Summer?

We hope to enter testing for the Odessa career soon, so hopefully you will have it sooner rather than later. 

[86Cheese]

8 hours ago, kraut1 said:

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/87575-emg-campaign-operation-citadel-1943-ii-schg1-fw190-a5-v01/

Im aware there are a bunch of EMG missions for the map, i want something official or at least actually made by a skilled mission maker rather than a copy/paste mission generator. I am not personally a fan of emg. If it wasn't integrated into pwcg, I could live with that, but unfortunately it isn't, so I'll keep asking as long as GB is still being worked on. I know im not the only one. 

 

What do you say @LukeFF? Yak-3 campaign for Prokhorovka? Please? 🙏

[AndreiTomescu]

Grupul 8, its history after converting to Hs129:

https://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?article=579

 

[AndreiTomescu]

2 hours ago, 86Cheese said:

i want something official or at least actually made by a skilled mission maker

we have the aircraft, both maps used (Kuban and Odessa), and a handful of skilled and experienced campaign designers.

it is difficult because it would require very detailed ground units

[BlackSix]

22 hours ago, Kubert said:

From current Soviet planes, for 1944, could be used Yak-1b, Yak-9, La-5F/FN, P-39, IL-2 mod43 and bombers. I am not sure if their current versions match new timeframe, but considering that the Kuban career ends early october 1943 and Leningrad should start January 1944, there are only three months between the two. So mentioned planes shouldn't be completely written off yet.

We'll use the entire aircraft set from the Battle of Kuban and German planes from BoN, as well as all late collector planes (Yak-1b/9, La-5F/FN, Bf 109 G-6 Late, etc).

14 hours ago, 86Cheese said:

Can we please get some short careers for Prokhorovka? Its such a shame that we have almost nothing for a map that so much activity in the air. There is such a great opportunity for a yak 3 campaign also... 

I'm afraid this is impossible for two reasons:

1) Prokhorovka itself doesn't contain a single aircraft. Those who only purchased this project won't be able to play the career included in it.

2) After the rapid northward breakthrough of German panzer divisions in the first days of the offensive, around July 8, all Soviet air regiments abandoned the airfields on the map, leaving only the Luftwaffe with a career. This doesn't suit us.

[LukeFF]

And with the addition of the Odessa careers, you will be able to progress through every single variant of the IAR80A and B from 1941 to 1944. 

[Juri_JS]

14 hours ago, 86Cheese said:

Can we please get some short careers for Prokhorovka? Its such a shame that we have almost nothing for a map that so much activity in the air. There is such a great opportunity for a yak 3 campaign also... 

I had plans for a Hs-129 campaign on the map, but noticed performances issues with lots of ground objects. I guess the cause is the more detailed terrain mesh in the Prokhorovka sector. Moreover I really don't like the ground textures of the map, some of the worst in the game in my opinion.

By the way, there were no Yak-3 at Prokhorovka.

[LuftManu]

2 hours ago, LukeFF said:

And with the addition of the Odessa careers, you will be able to progress through every single variant of the IAR80A and B from 1941 to 1944. 

I'm looking forward for that a lot!!! Those two planes are tons of fun!
Thanks!

[sandmarken]

3 hours ago, LukeFF said:

And with the addition of the Odessa careers, you will be able to progress through every single variant of the IAR80A and B from 1941 to 1944. 

No, because who can survive three years in the IAR80? 😅

It surprised me how well it can do against planes like I-16s and early LaGG-3s. But when the 1942 Soviet crafts show up, the manual prop pitch is the least of its problems.

I don't know how the Romanians managed to do so well against P-38s that one time with the  IAR80 , but probably not because of its performance!

[Hakman]

Hello, do we know when will the module be released fully to play?

 

In addition, do we know what planes from this graphic from old forum on Karelia map discussions be added?

sorry if it was already asked, but I didnt see any informatiom about it 😞

Thanks in advance!

[Avimimus]

My understanding:

• No additional aircraft have been officially confirmed.
• The Finnish/Karelia team was given permission to recruit third party artists with the aim of producing aircraft, and to communicate what aircraft were already being worked on by third parties as part of recruitment.
• There is no timeline. Any release is dependent on the success of these third parties in completing the project to a sufficient standard. If a release happens, any release will be sold separately (after the Odessa and Leningrad module is released).
• The Odessa & Leningrad map module (Siege and Liberation) only contains the aircraft already announced for it (https://il2sturmovik.com/news/883/dev-blog-370/)