A few questions that I now got a new rig...

[AndyJWest]

45 minutes ago, daiphan said:

...what is the ideal PFS that simulates real life situation? Dai 

Infinity? Real life doesn't come in frames. But since that is an obviously silly answer, forget about hypothetical 'ideals', and instead think about what you actually require. If you can't tell the difference between 60 FPS and 150, 60 is all you need. Any higher is just wasting electricity and unnecessarily stressing the hardware.

[Aapje]

51 minutes ago, daiphan said:

With Vsync off I get over 150 PFS. With on always 58-60 PFS.

That means that your monitor either can't do more than 60 FPS or is set to 60 FPS, which is fairly low. I would think about replacing it with a higher refresh screen, unless it can do better. Then change the settings.

But that is one of the issues with using a TV as a monitor, a lot of them only offer 60 FPS. A lot of them also have really bad input lag, and many modern TVs have a gaming mode that turns off a lot of things that the TV does, that causes lag. So this actually could also have something to do with the issues you have/had with the difficulty to stay behind an enemy.

51 minutes ago, daiphan said:

They both look the same to me without being choppy or screen tearing when Vsync is off.

Vsync only helps with screen tearing, so there is no use to have it on if you don't see tearing. However, running 150 FPS on a 60 FPS monitor is only a small benefit in that the shooting becomes a little bit more accurate, although you don't see it on the screen.

That's why I suggested a higher FPS monitor or TV (that is good for gaming), then you also get smoother visuals.

51 minutes ago, daiphan said:

Also what is the ideal PFS that simulates real life situation?

Real life has close to infinite FPS. So it would cost infinite money to try and replicate that as best as possible.

Realistically, people pick a framerate that works for them. That is very personal. People tend to nearly always notice a big difference below 60, but then above that some have a preference of 500 FPS or higher, but most people are somewhere in between. It's also often a tradeoff between visual quality and FPS.

[daiphan]

53 minutes ago, Aapje said:

That means that your monitor either can't do more than 60 FPS or is set to 60 FPS, which is fairly low. I would think about replacing it with a higher refresh screen, unless it can do better. Then change the settings.

But that is one of the issues with using a TV as a monitor, a lot of them only offer 60 FPS. A lot of them also have really bad input lag, and many modern TVs have a gaming mode that turns off a lot of things that the TV does, that causes lag. So this actually could also have something to do with the issues you have/had with the difficulty to stay behind an enemy.

Vsync only helps with screen tearing, so there is no use to have it on if you don't see tearing. However, running 150 FPS on a 60 FPS monitor is only a small benefit in that the shooting becomes a little bit more accurate, although you don't see it on the screen.

That's why I suggested a higher FPS monitor or TV (that is good for gaming), then you also get smoother visuals.

Real life has close to infinite FPS. So it would cost infinite money to try and replicate that as best as possible.

Realistically, people pick a framerate that works for them. That is very personal. People tend to nearly always notice a big difference below 60, but then above that some have a preference of 500 FPS or higher, but most people are somewhere in between. It's also often a tradeoff between visual quality and FPS.

If I am shopping for a TV to be used as a monitor, how do I know it is designed for gaming? Dai 

[daiphan]

Hi all,

On IL2 site, there are no battle of Kuban, Stalingrad or Moscow to be offered. Are these discontinued? Dai 

 

[Dauntless]

3 minutes ago, daiphan said:

Hi all,

On IL2 site, there are no battle of Kuban, Stalingrad or Moscow to be offered. Are these discontinued? Dai 

 

https://il2-series.com/en/store/gb/modules/

[daiphan]

34 minutes ago, Dauntless said:

https://il2-series.com/en/store/gb/modules/

Thank you very much !!! Dai 

Hi all,

When I select Vsync on or off. I get these like something like this crawling on the screen. Is this simulated rain or screen tearing? Thanks Dai 

Edited March 31 by daiphan

[OSIW]

That`s rain.

You could google screen tearing and see for yourself if this looks similar.

[daiphan]

14 minutes ago, OSIW said:

That`s rain.

You could google screen tearing and see for yourself if this looks similar.

Thank you very much! What throws me off were the dark areas that do not look like rain at all. In high speed rain just appear like fine clear streaks instead of dark spots.  Dai

 

Edited March 31 by daiphan

[Sparviero]

1 hour ago, daiphan said:

If I am shopping for a TV to be used as a monitor, how do I know it is designed for gaming? Dai 

Well, TV are generally not so good as monitor. The point is that you need at least a 4K res for a 50'' TV (so about 3800x2100) with a refresh rate of at least 90hz. 1440 X 1080 is a very low res, no sense to use that with a i9/5070.

Edited March 31 by Sparviero

[daiphan]

2 minutes ago, Sparviero said:

Well, TV are generally not so good as monitor. The point is that you need at least a 4K res for a 50'' TV (so about 3800x2100) with a refresh rate of at least 90hz. 

The TV I use is 4K 2160P. What do you think? Dai 

Roku 50" Class 4K HDR LED Smart RokuTV (2025) 50CC - Best Buy

 

[Sparviero]

Just rise the in game res, it should be fine

[daiphan]

Well it has been a week and I have yet to shoot down a plane. What settings in Quick Mission that I need to set in order to achieve this? I have selected against Me-110 (novice) but I have yet to get behind one. I fly 51B or 47D. They all come head on then quick turns out of sight. Dai 

2 minutes ago, Sparviero said:

Just rise the in game res, it should be fine

Now I use 1440 x 1280. Dai 

[daiphan]

9 minutes ago, Sparviero said:

Just rise the in game res, it should be fine

What resolution would you recommend? Thanks Dai 

[Sparviero]

35 minutes ago, daiphan said:

What resolution would you recommend? Thanks Dai 

The max you can set according to your TV (I suppose about 3800x2100) or the max that permit IL-2, otherwise you have a sort of upscaling that destroy the video quality.

Edited March 31 by Sparviero

[Aapje]

2 hours ago, daiphan said:

If I am shopping for a TV to be used as a monitor, how do I know it is designed for gaming? Dai 

I don't really follow the specific options, but I see people rate the TCL TVs very highly as a relatively affordable option that is very good value. In particular this one:

https://us.tcl.com/products/tcl-55-qm7k-series-qd-mini-led-qled-4k-uhd-smart-tv-with-google-tv-55qm7k

It's a higher tier than what you picked though.

[BlitzPig_EL]

Aerial gunnery is not an easy skill.  It takes a lot of practice.  Start out attacking a flight of Ju52 transports, and use the P51D with 6 guns and extra ammo.  Learn where to hit them to cause damage and really just learn how to shoot accurately before trying to dogfight other fighters.  Don't set your opponents to a high skill level yet.

One thing at a time.

[daiphan]

1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Aerial gunnery is not an easy skill.  It takes a lot of practice.  Start out attacking a flight of Ju52 transports, and use the P51D with 6 guns and extra ammo.  Learn where to hit them to cause damage and really just learn how to shoot accurately before trying to dogfight other fighters.  Don't set your opponents to a high skill level yet.

One thing at a time.

Although my throttle is set way forward I have hard time catching up with them (He-111, Ju52, Me-110...). Even use 8X acceleration to catch them up is to no avail. Dai  

[daiphan]

1 hour ago, Aapje said:

I don't really follow the specific options, but I see people rate the TCL TVs very highly as a relatively affordable option that is very good value. In particular this one:

https://us.tcl.com/products/tcl-55-qm7k-series-qd-mini-led-qled-4k-uhd-smart-tv-with-google-tv-55qm7k

It's a higher tier than what you picked though.

I run the game at 2560 X 1600, Vsync off and my TV has 60 Hz refresh. I would say the motion is fluid. The TV you mention has 144 Hz refresh and will I be able to tell a big difference? Dai 

Hi all,

I bought the Battle of Bodenplate but in the IL2 menu, it shows Rheinland Scenarios instead. Is this normal? Dai 

Edited March 31 by daiphan

[AEthelraedUnraed]

9 hours ago, daiphan said:

I run the game at 2560 X 1600, Vsync off and my TV has 60 Hz refresh. I would say the motion is fluid. The TV you mention has 144 Hz refresh and will I be able to tell a big difference? Dai 

Hi all,

I bought the Battle of Bodenplate but in the IL2 menu, it shows Rheinland Scenarios instead. Is this normal? Dai 

Aapje already answered this:

14 hours ago, Aapje said:

Realistically, people pick a framerate that works for them. That is very personal. People tend to nearly always notice a big difference below 60, but then above that some have a preference of 500 FPS or higher, but most people are somewhere in between. It's also often a tradeoff between visual quality and FPS.

No-one is equal so it's impossible to tell what works for you. Just experiment with the settings, if you're satisfied with the visuals, then why care what other people think? 🙂

As for the module, yes Rheinland and Bodenplatte are two names for the same thing.

12 hours ago, daiphan said:

Well it has been a week and I have yet to shoot down a plane. What settings in Quick Mission that I need to set in order to achieve this? I have selected against Me-110 (novice) but I have yet to get behind one. I fly 51B or 47D. They all come head on then quick turns out of sight. Dai 

The P-47 is no plane for beginners, and the P-51 only up to a point. I recommend flying a Yak or Bf-109 instead, at least until you know the basics.

Also set your difficulty to easy for now. It'll help you with many of the engine settings, which is likely why you can't catch up. Take unlimited ammo, and fly against the Ju-52. In the Quick Mission settings for the enemy, you can select the distance at which they will spawn, as well as their relative position. Set this to spawn at 2000m, behind them. That way you don't have to bother with a difficult head-on pass.

You may also want to try ground-attack at a stationary target (e.g. artillery). Stationary targets are easier to hit, and many people prefer ground attack anyhow.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

I also think you're conflating many things. If your FPS is "high enough" and your TV's input lag is "low enough" that you don't really notice either of them, then a new TV isn't realistically going to help you with shooting. It's just going to give you a little prettier visuals, that you might not even notice. Since everyone is different, there are no fixed values anyone can give that work for you.

Regarding the input lag specifically, look at the in-game joystick of the aircraft you're flying. If there isn't a noticeable delay between its movement and that of your hardware, then your input lag is fine and you don't need a new TV.

 

Bottom line is; if it works for you, then your current settings and hardware are fine.

Edited April 1 by AEthelraedUnraed

[kalerider1]

Dai. You've had some good advice here. The only thing I'd add about your graphics settings is you don't need shadows set so high. Shadows are very demanding on your system. Turning down a notch or two will ease that and you also won't really notice the difference visually. I'd also try setting target fps to 60 to match your tv to see if that is smoother, though you've said it's smooth without fps limiting anyway so up to you.

To learn to play I'd echo the advice to start with the 109 (bf 109 f4 with additional 20mm cannons is my recommendation). Set up a quick start duel against a p47 to continue spawning until your ammo runs out, set the ai to novice, set your difficulty settings to infinite ammo and keep practicing. The hardest bit is learning to not jerk the stick too much when aiming. You want slow steady movement on target, at least to begin with. Eventually you'll use rapid movements with stick and rudder to get snap shots on off angle targets/head on passes, but that's a more advanced technique that'll come later.

Most of all have fun. It can be a steep learning curve but stick with it.

[daiphan]

How about this set up for a newbie? Dai 

Edited April 1 by daiphan

[kalerider1]

Personally I'd uncheck everything not highlighted in red or green apart from unlimited ammo. There's too many things there that interfere with learning to fly. However you might like to leave aim assist on at first as it will show you how much lead you need for deflection shooting.

[daiphan]

Hi all,

I finally got my first kill. However when I turn around they are nowhere to be found again. I had to use auto pilot in order to find them again. What did I go wrong? Dai  

Edited April 1 by daiphan

[Shinobimono]

12 часов назад, daiphan сказал:

What did I go wrong?

Visibility is not great in Il-2: GB. You can easily lose the target after few maneuvers if you are not aware of its initial heading. Try to Zoom-in and scan the area.

As for the whole topic: I think that when you address the doctor you don't expect that he will cure you via your photo. Same here. You can easily capture your games using GPU utilities and show the whole problem to us, avoiding unclear and controversial questions.