SIX! New planes for IL2-GB announced!

[Kapteeni45]

 I would like to have some early planes...like Gladiator, Fiat G.50, and early blenheim and russian SB.. but i quess, they will never be in IL2..because of Korea...which look beauitifull tho

[sevenless]

12 minutes ago, Kapteeni45 said:

 I would like to have some early planes...like Gladiator, Fiat G.50, and early blenheim and russian SB.. but i quess, they will never be in IL2..because of Korea...which look beauitifull tho

I wouldn´t be that pessimistic. Great Battles isn´t dead yet. Might be we see additional content in 2027.

[VISHNU]

I'm certainly NOT  disappointed by this announcement, at all, but I was hoping that there are Finnish aircraft on the way.   Has anybody heard anything?

 

[Aapje]

7 minutes ago, VISHNU said:

I'm certainly NOT  disappointed by this announcement, at all, but I was hoping that there are Finnish aircraft on the way.   Has anybody heard anything?

As far as I know the status is that 2 of the Finnish planes have modellers, but it can take a long time for them to be done. Only then will 1CGS pick up the flight modelling and such.

[HubertMeyer]

Great News

[Avimimus]

4 hours ago, mrtomek said:

Of course I will be grateful for every new plane for IL-2, but please don't forget about some wonderful aircrafts that we have already in game which are a bit wasted or not fully utilized, for example:

1. No R4M and 1xSC500 for Ta-152

2. No radio-navigational equipment fo Mosquito (nor some simple radar)

3. Most important: no external racks for 4xSC50/SD70 for Me-410 and no possibility to take 4xWgr21 with bombs  (or some other rockets like this in Fw190 under wings)

4. There are definitely not enough scripted campaigns for this excellent planes (and many others too, like p-38 Lightning...)

 

1. No Ta-152H in service carried these weapons. Fitting the SC500 to a high altitude interceptor isn't that useful and the wing efficiency would have been damaged by the R4M racks. Such weapon loads would have been more appropriate for a Ta-152C. In any case, it isn't historically accurate for the aircraft we have in the sim.

2. The FB.VI was intended as a day fighter and night intruder. It was not built to carry radar. Some where retrofitted with Serate radar homing devices (to allow homing in on German night fighter radars), but it wasn't that common.

3. The Me-410 used the Werfer-Granate 21 for bomber interceptions (as was its primary role). Without evidence for them being used for ground attack by the Me-410, it doesn't make sense to mix these weapons with bombs. Edit: That said, I would kind-of like an option for AP rounds for the Mk-103, as that would make more sense for the anti-shipping variant (although I no longer recall whether they were ever deployed in actuality).

That said, there are a few aircraft that could benefit from having additional options (and things like having the Ju-88A4 forward firing gun be operable by the pilot would be nice). Scripted campaigns are also pretty neat.

 

  

1 hour ago, Aapje said:

As far as I know the status is that 2 of the Finnish planes have modellers, but it can take a long time for them to be done. Only then will 1CGS pick up the flight modelling and such.

I think they might be up to three now. However, when working with third parties it is important to remember that they are often doing this in their spare time - schedules slip, life events happen or changes to work etc. It is pretty unpredictable and none of these aircraft have been announced officially. The closest is that the Finnish team has stated that they have official permission to recruit modellers - but there has been no confirmation from the developers.

I'm quite optimistic - but it is important to remember these realities (and it may explain why these aircraft wouldn't be included in an official roadmap).

[Gutholz]

7 hours ago, Czech693 said:

My two cents, again.

Fw-189?  A recon plane?  Are you going to fly around and report enemy ground formations?  To whom?  Becomes a target plane.

 

Target planes fill a gameplay role, too. Fighters can escort them or intercept them. Without targets it is just deathmatch.

I have not tried it myself yet, but recon/spotting missions do seem to exist. Also some servers have a mechanic where a general area is marked on the map and if a recon plane flies overhead then the excact location of targets is marked on the map for everyone. (At least I think that is how it works?)

It is different from the usual fighter-action but maybe from time to time it is nice to go "sight-seeing" a bit. Doing relaxing supply-flights in the Ju52/C47 seems to have its fans, too.

 

[Nr.1_Bf-109_Enjoyer]

[Juri_JS]

11 hours ago, Avimimus said:

It also had a night fighter variant in 1944... unfortunately, I suspect we won't see it because of a lack of reference materials and the presence of a radar - but it is still kind-of cool (the mid-upper gunner was replaced with an Mg-151 Schräge Musik)!

It's not completely clear, how many of the Fw-189 flown by NJG 100 had these modifications. Probably some were just normal Fw-189, that were guided by ground radar. 

[Asgar]

love to see the bombers, but the „more engines than usual“ comment from a while back makes even less sense now.
So many bombers and no He 177? Perfect German heavy bomber for the Easter front and a Blitz scenario in the west 🥲

[Lofte]

29 minutes ago, Asgar said:

love to see the bombers, but the „more engines than usual“ comment from a while back makes even less sense now.
So many bombers and no He 177? Perfect German heavy bomber for the Easter front and a Blitz scenario in the west 🥲

He-177 would cost as much as all 6 of these planes together. But It would be cool.

[sandmarken]

The Fw 189 is going to be a lot of fun. I have been wanting a plane like it since we got the U-2VS for the Soviet side. This plane will be the perfect one for a scripted campaign. It will allow for unusual mission types. I have some ideas already. 😁

[Avimimus]

I'm also looking forward to the P-39Q - it should have a much better rate of climb, a slightly higher top speed, and a somewhat more durable engine... all features that make it a more viable upgrade than the more powerful wing guns (which will usually be removed anyway).

[LuftManu]

One of my favourites will indeed be the B-25! So much use for both West and East front.

Also agree with you @Avimimus. Airacobra with refinements for late war will be much fun! (It was in 46)

Kind regards,

[MDzmitry]

34 минуты назад, Avimimus сказал:

I'm also looking forward to the P-39Q - it should have a much better rate of climb

Wait, should it? 

All I have on P-39s are two documents:

- A TsAGI document that mentions P-39 without stating its model

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- A P-39Q-1 data sheet that shows a climb rate of only 2600 feet/min compared to P-39D's 2500.

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But in regards to higher speed you are correct, there was a 20mph increase in max speed between the L and the Q.

 

I personally hope that P-39Q brings with it some documents or physics revision that gives it better horizontal turn performance that can be seen in the TsAGI document. But that's most likely just wishful thinking.

[Enceladus828]

I'm excited to finally fly the B-26!! Last Combat flight sim to my knowledge that had that in the vanilla version was CFS3 all the way back in 2002.

[Bajzon20]

1 hour ago, LuftManu said:

One of my favourites will indeed be the B-25! So much use for both West and East front.

Also agree with you @Avimimus. Airacobra with refinements for late war will be much fun! (It was in 46)

Kind regards,

I think I'm most looking forward to the A-20G on the Russian side, if it has torpedo modifications, it will be perfect for hunting ships!

[easterling77]

1 hour ago, Enceladus828 said:

I'm excited to finally fly the B-26!! Last Combat flight sim to my knowledge that had that in the vanilla version was CFS3 all the way back in 2002.

Childhood memories

[Bajzon20]

9 minutes ago, easterling77 said:

Childhood memories

The same model from this game was used in Ypack version of Il-2 1946 i think.

[Avimimus]

12 hours ago, Juri_JS said:

It's not completely clear, how many of the Fw-189 flown by NJG 100 had these modifications. Probably some were just normal Fw-189, that were guided by ground radar. 

Well, I spent a bit of time searching for photos of the interior... all I found were the two exterior photos that keep appearing. If anything turns up - let me know. It is probably a bit late in development to include, but you never know.

[HarryM]

Bombers will be cool, esp the B-26.

Thought they were "too much work", now getting 3. AI lending a hand?

[Avimimus]

3 hours ago, MDzmitry said:

Wait, should it? 

All I have on P-39s are two documents:

- A TsAGI document that mentions P-39 without stating its model

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- A P-39Q-1 data sheet that shows a climb rate of only 2600 feet/min compared to P-39D's 2500.

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But in regards to higher speed you are correct, there was a 20mph increase in max speed between the L and the Q.

 

I personally hope that P-39Q brings with it some documents or physics revision that gives it better horizontal turn performance that can be seen in the TsAGI document. But that's most likely just wishful thinking.

I could have misremembered. I've started checking my sources - but I'm having trouble finding the information.

1 minute ago, HarryM said:

Bombers will be cool, esp the B-26.

Thought they were "too much work", now getting 3. AI lending a hand?

There is no way large language word predictors or image generators could possibly help with this effort.

I suspect that there may be some third parties involved and/or they're almost done modelling for Korea, and thus have artists to spare. The external models are done for all aircraft and vehicles in Korea, and only one cockpit isn't close to completion (see the F-84 cockpit development update).

Anyway, hopefully they'll sell well enough to motivate them adding the B-26 Invader (redesignated A-26) to Korea! I've always wanted to try flying that plane.

[HarryM]

Yes, A-26 was a hot ship. Was a funny bug in "MiG Alley" that they got mixed up and put the Marauder in there...

[Avimimus]

8 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

I could have misremembered. I've started checking my sources - but I'm having trouble finding the information.

My head hurts...

[Juri_JS]

1 hour ago, Avimimus said:

Well, I spent a bit of time searching for photos of the interior... all I found were the two exterior photos that keep appearing. If anything turns up - let me know. It is probably a bit late in development to include, but you never know.

I've done lots of research on Eastern Front night fighting in the past and I don't think there is anything available. NJG 100 is one of the more mysterious Luftwaffe units anyway and there are many open questions. For example how two Ju-87 D-5s ended up in their inventory. Were they really hunting Po-2s with Stukas?

Edited March 5 by Juri_JS