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JollyJack
Posted
1 hour ago, Avimimus said:

Do you have them set for 'contact' or for a timed fuse? If you have a timed fuse they won't detonate on contact.

Contact ... 

Posted
20 minutes ago, JollyJack said:

Contact ... 

Then it might actually be the firepower? The RS-82 has 450 grams of high explosive as its bursting charge, with much of the weight going into the shell wall (this should give it fairly good effect as a fragmentation weapon).

Firing eight RS-82 rockets into a single building delivers 3.6 kg of high explosive. In contrast a single FAB-50 delivers about 25 kg of high explosives. So, we're talking about all eight rockets amounting to about 1/7th the high explosive power of a single FAB-50.

So, I wouldn't expect them to be very effective against all but the lightest buildings... if they have thin wooden walls, or a refuel tanks you should see some effect... but thicker wooden buildings, steel, or concrete the damage from a single rocket would be quite limited. Think of them as primarily suited for use against small boats, trains, and occasionally other targets like fuel tanks or convoys of vehicles.

P.S. If you want a rocket that is more effective, try the Il-2 Mod. 1944 using the later M13 rockets - these had 4900 gram bursting charges. Firing all four into a building would deliver almost 20 kg of TNT (something comparable to a FAB-50).

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5 часов назад, Avimimus сказал:

The roll rate is actually quite good compared to the Yak.

Still feeling kind of salty about it... Can't help having the image of a spinning Yak-3 in my mind

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Jaegermeister
Posted
13 hours ago, JollyJack said:

PS just tried the LaGG3 and I-153 rockets against ground targets, factory buildings and also linked entry German ground targets. They seem harmless. Buggy?

You don't even actually have to score a direct hit for them to do damage. They work.

Against Ammo Trucks, a direct hit results in explosion, a very near miss will disable them.

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BTW, once the ammo truck above caught on fire, all 8 went up in flames, but I was looking the other way at the time.

 

I tried it against AAA guns and it destroyed them, with similar results

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With fuel tanks, I got less spectacular results, but I would imagine a couple of rocket hits would set off the normal fire effects.

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FuriousMeow
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The La7 feels like a faster, more refined La5FN that also stays cooler. Very maneuverable and lands easy to me but I worked on getting proficient with the La5 series before. Stay fast and use that roll rate, turn fights can be won but not where the La's are best. 

Odessa was already very nice, haven't seen the release version but thought the early access was great.

The Leningrad map is very well done. The terrain is unique. Wouldn't hate to see some Finnish Air Force specific aircraft not currently modeled show up. Brewster, Fiat, Curtiss..

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BlitzPig_EL
Posted
3 minutes ago, FuriousMeow said:

Wouldn't hate to see some Finnish Air Force specific aircraft not currently modeled show up. Brewster, Fiat, Curtiss..

They are desperately needed to create any Winter War scenario.  Right now about all we can do on the Finland map is some limited Continuation War set ups, if you want to do a Finnish centric scenario.

Leningrad of course is doable, but I am very interested in the FAF scenarios, and aircraft.

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FuriousMeow
Posted (edited)

An Aviatik C.I and Royal Aircraft Factory B.E.2c would also be something to see, but I feel like there's better chances on at least one of those FAF planes being completed. 

Edit: And if anyone is curious, Fokker DVIIF vs I16 AI is a fun fight and can be won. Haven't tried against the I153 yet. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, FuriousMeow said:

An Aviatik C.I and Royal Aircraft Factory B.E.2c would also be something to see

Wouldn't it be nice. 🙂

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migmadmarine
Posted
18 hours ago, Avimimus said:

This is a bit of a challenge. What are the options?

SB-2 = Same bombload as the Pe-2, but slower and with a worse defensive armament. Lower wing-loading. It would be relevant in Leningrad, Moscow, and Odessa. It was withdrawn after that (although a few would have lingered in night bomber regiments until at least 1942). It was very numerous at first, but is essentially a more vulnerable Pe-2 predecessor.

Il-4/DB-3 = Heavy bombload, slow enough to be caught by the Ju-88C. The issue is that these aircraft were deployed with long range bomber units which tended to logistics targets well behind enemy lines and also used their range to base off of airfields further back from the lines (leaving the forward airfields to frontal aviation). The result is that they might have been flying over three of the maps - but it is almost impossible to find both airfields and targets for them on any of the maps we currently have.

Tu-2 = Heavy bombload, fast, well armed. It would only be useable on the Velikiye Luki map and the Leningrad map. I also gather that they were initially mainly used against Finnish targets or for reconnaissance as they wanted to limit German familiarity with this type prior to Bagration (but I could be wrong about that).

If anyone has better sources - let me know.

Anyway, by 'proper' I suspect you mean something with a heavier bombload than the Pe-2? If so, your options are basically a single unit of Tu-2 bombers (334th BAD)... unless information turns up showing that the Il-4 was used much more extensively near the front in one of these theatres.

Should note that the SB and DB would both also be useable for the Finnish air forces, which would be a plus. I'd be quite pleased to see the SB added in. 

 

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Posted
On 1/27/2026 at 7:53 AM, Charlo said:

I’m looking forward to flying over the new maps!

It might be Saturday before I can check this, but in this 7.001 update is the Ju 87 D-3 oil flap lever fixed? It has been showing reversed what it should be doing - Auf (at the top) should be where the lever goes to when fully open, but since 6.003 that lever goes down to Zu when fully open. The lever movement was always correctly modeled in the Ju 87 D-5.

 

On 1/27/2026 at 8:55 AM, LukeFF said:

I'll ask about it. Thanks for the reminder. 

I was just now able to check the Ju 87 D-3 oil flap lever, but no, it is still showing the reverse of what it should. Perhaps it'll be fixed in the next hotfix or update 🤔

Posted
10 hours ago, FuriousMeow said:

An Aviatik C.I

We really need to get beyond the Aviatik C.I - early sim developers picked it because of the iconic unarmed Aviatik B series... but the Aviatik C was never that common a type. By mid-1915 the Albatros C.I and LVG C.II are both just as common and come from the same generation of very early and stable armed two-seaters (the Aviatik C.I was maybe 25% of the two-seater force). The weapon options are also greater for the Albatros and LVG (the LVG even has a fixed forward firing gun). So, I'd suggest that if anyone asks for an early 1915-1916 two-seater they consider the LVG C.II or the Albatros C.I instead! Same goes for third party devs if they were thinking of taking the plunge.

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AndreiTomescu
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I have documented myself.

The Finnish army and airforce refused to take part in the siege of Leningrad, refused to bomb it or advance further than 20 km from it outskirts. (Something that the Romanian troops should have done also regarding Odessa, but that's another story)

So, since the module is related to the siege and liberation of Odessa and Leningrad, it is understandable that the finnish airforce is not represented in this module upon release.

So, want to make an apology regarding my previous post, in which i was upset about not having this (finnish airforce): I'm sorry, it is my bad. 

Still, the release of such airframes and skins flown by Finnish airforce, as collector or not, would be much apreciated.

Thank you!

P.S. romanian skins for late war Odessa are still a necessity

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I've got to say I'm really enjoying the Career in this latest module; flying 2 careers as Soviet pilots for siege of Odessa & for siege of Leningrad, there seems to be overwhelming opposing forces coming over in waves very close to my airfield and I'm often lucky to survive a mission (fortunately the LaGG-3 is tough as boots!). Really got to chuck it around to avoid those pesky 109s!

Looking forward to hearing what future aircraft are planned for GB (hopefully today :classic_biggrin:)

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Holy cow!!! The Leningrad map is gorgeous!   Thanks to all involved!   I can’t wait for Finnish/Soviet campaigns by modders. 

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Korontari
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Большое спасибо за дополнение, душа радуется! Огромная работа проделана, Ленинград очень впечатляет! Очень приятно видеть проработанные ключевые здания, я даже альма-матер свою нашёл.  Осталось сесть в Газ-ММ и покататься по Невскому. 🙂

Великолепная работа, молодцы!

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Jaegermeister
Posted
12 hours ago, AndreiTomescu said:

P.S. romanian skins for late war Odessa are still a necessity

It would be nice to see a Romanian Hurricane skin, that would be very useful. It was used quite a bit in the later 1941 operations over Odessa, and not just over Constanta. They were forward deployed in September to Selz at the end of the Siege. Maybe that can happen in the near future, who knows?

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JG4_Moltke1871
Posted

One of my first missions on Leningrad Map was to destroy the „Troitzki Bridge“. I had a clear hit with a 500kg bomb..

 

Seems the bridge is indestructible.. Or just need more bombload?  🤔

CzechTexan
Posted
13 hours ago, AndreiTomescu said:

So, since the module is related to the siege and liberation of Odessa and Leningrad, it is understandable that the finnish airforce is not represented in this module upon release.

So, want to make an apology regarding my previous post, in which i was upset about not having this (finnish airforce): I'm sorry, it is my bad. 

Still, the release of such airframes and skins flown by Finnish airforce, as collector or not, would be much apreciated.

You make a good point but from my point of view, Siege and Liberation of Leningrad is just a title.    This map is not just about Leningrad.  It's also about the Finnish-USSR border.  It was the Finnish team of creators who started this map and did the bulk of the necessary work on it.   I assume that these Finlanders mainly wanted to fly for the Finnish Air Force and dreaming of flying Brewsters, Hawks, etc. on this map - Not over Leningrad but flying over all other places of the map.

I'm not upset about these planes not being available, now, because some will be in the future.  Planes need time and effort to develop so it's understandable that some things are not possible for the module's release.

Anyhow, I would like to cast my vote for the Curtiss Hawk.  It's probably the only plane I'd fly for the Finnish side.  The Hawk, in my opinion, would be the best against its competitors.

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AndreiTomescu
Posted
8 hours ago, Jaegermeister said:

It would be nice to see a Romanian Hurricane skin,

In his wonderful Hurricane Diaries campaign, @sandmarken used some perfect ro Hurricane skins. Aren't those usefull?

sandmarken
Posted
4 minutes ago, AndreiTomescu said:

In his wonderful Hurricane Diaries campaign, @sandmarken used some perfect ro Hurricane skins. Aren't those usefull?

Those are good and work very well with tactical codes as well. I think Jägermeister made a skin as well!

The 53rd was active in our part of the map very early in Barbarossa, as shown in the campaign. Flying over our map area, but from an airfield just outside its border (Buzău). If the career mode eventually gets a chapter as early as June/July, the Hurricanes could be present then as well, as they were one of the most successful squadrons early on.

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3 hours ago, sandmarken said:

Those are good and work very well with tactical codes as well. I think Jägermeister made a skin as well!

The 53rd was active in our part of the map very early in Barbarossa, as shown in the campaign. Flying over our map area, but from an airfield just outside its border (Buzău). If the career mode eventually gets a chapter as early as June/July, the Hurricanes could be present then as well, as they were one of the most successful squadrons early on.

It could be possible to build an Airfield half the way to Buzau in the marked area (if there is a sufficient flat area).

Maybe together with one copied town and simple surfaces under the town.
I could add this to my Romania 1917 map mod....
But I don't know if I would have the time to create the mapstiles...

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Or alternatively if you want to avoid to use a mod just some surfaces packed in the campaign folder for an improvised Airfield and maybe a small town in this area:
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sandmarken
Posted
50 minutes ago, kraut1 said:

It could be possible to build an Airfield half the way to Buzau in the marked area (if there is a sufficient flat area).

Maybe together with one copied town and simple surfaces under the town.
I could add this to my Romania 1917 map mod....
But I don't know if I would have the time to create the mapstiles...

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Or alternatively if you want to avoid to use a mod just some surfaces packed in the campaign folder for an improvised Airfield and maybe a small town in this area:
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Great options! Right now i think it works well just using galati. It gives short transits to the action. 😁

Posted
7 minutes ago, sandmarken said:

Great options! Right now i think it works well just using galati. It gives short transits to the action. 😁

Yes of course!

I design all my campaign missions for short flight time to avoid using time acceleration, flight time for full mission take off to landing  between 10...45 minutes.

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I have to purchase this soon looks really great. 

BlitzPig_EL
Posted
15 hours ago, CzechTexan said:

Anyhow, I would like to cast my vote for the Curtiss Hawk.  It's probably the only plane I'd fly for the Finnish side.  The Hawk, in my opinion, would be the best against its competitors.

The Hawk 75 was the second highest scoring aircraft in the Finish Air Force after the Brewster.

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